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  • Forever 8

    Here, is a very symmetrical house, so I went with one point perspective. I am not sure what the architect wants so it might change, but we'll have to see.

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  • #2
    Here is an early version. I have to double check on some materials, I think some of the exteriors is stone, so it'll inevitable change.

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    • #3
      I'm always surprised at the architectural differences between different countries. I'm pretty sure something like this wouldn't stand a chance in planning over here in the UK. I'm interested: how long does it take you to model something like this?

      Roof tiles look a bit nasty, though I appreciate this is early. Have you tried Batzal Roof Designer? I haven't used it for a while, but it seemed quite good from what I can remember.
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      • #4
        I have Batzal Roof Designer, but I do not think I have used it in years. I usually use DigitalXModels.com's Displacement Roof Surfaces script, which is what I used on this one. This model took two days, but it is very symmetrical, so I only had to model half of it. Why wouldn't this work in the U.K.?


        I was originally told that this architect does not just let anybody do his renderings, and has an in-house illustrator, but he is busy; I needed to reach his quality of photo-realism. So, I got the cad files, modeled it up, and then asked for colors and materials. I waited several days for his in-house illustrator to email me his illustration that he completed months early. The design changed, so I had to model it again, but the colors have stayed the same. When he did email it, I was a little apprehensive to open the email, I was worried that it is something that I could not compete with. After all, this is a boutique architect who designs for the rich and famous. When I double click the file, I had to gasp for air.... it was hideous!!!!


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        i don't want to make fun of other peoples work, but come on!
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        • #5
          It looks like something from Disneyland! I will take a look at the script you mentioned. To be honest, we rarely do tiled roofs. Batzal was quite nice, but licensing was always a pain, and it seemed a little clunky and 'forgotten about'.

          My point about planning is really about the design: 'its all over the shop' in my opinion. Proportions of roof to window, odd 'neo-classical' elements, clashing styles. Honestly...its hideous. But then, a lot of stuff in the UK is also hideous!

          Much of what architectural visualisation is what we like to call 'turd-polishing'. Some turds are harder to make sparkle
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          • #6
            Personally, I don't get "design"; it seems to be very subjective. I am getting good and seeing good composition in an image, so I can see how someone can see good design in a structure, but I haven't studied that. Someone likes his stuff, because he seems to have a lot of high end client.
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            • #7
              I wish Google would build into "Google Images" a design algorithm. It would be nice to drag-n-drop a photo and it'll return a design grade. With my renderings I always crunch the colors so I only see lights and darks. This way, I can see if I have a good balance. I also zoom way out and look at my renderings on a stamp size preview. This lets me see basic shapes better. Mirroring my rendering back and forth also tricks my brain into seeing the rendering for balance. Someone should write all this kind of stuff into an algorithm.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by glorybound View Post
                Personally, I don't get "design"; it seems to be very subjective. I am getting good and seeing good composition in an image, so I can see how someone can see good design in a structure, but I haven't studied that. Someone likes his stuff, because he seems to have a lot of high end client.
                'Design' is merely a point for interesting debate - there is no right or wrong opinion. Having said that, there are some soft 'rules' that seem to be common regardless. Scale and proportion for instance. Composition and chiaroscuro are others.

                What I have learned in life though is that the more money a person has, the less taste (in cars, houses, number plates, fashion) a person has. Does taste = design?
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                • #9
                  a lot houses in US look like Disneyland and the fact that some elements are fake...fake stone, fake windows, fake chimneys, fake shutters, etc
                  brick being used only in one face like a sticker and turning the corner with fake wood siding in vinyl....design wise in this case using american way to say it would be "contemporary neo-classical revival"
                  show me the money!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by glorybound View Post
                    I can see how someone can see good design in a structure, but I haven't studied that. Someone likes his stuff, because he seems to have a lot of high end client.
                    Honestly you shouldn't be looking for it in these. this isn't architecture, they're just buildings.
                    this is high end single family home architecture - http://www.archdaily.com/category/houses/ (also, that page is the be all-end all bible for material/lighting/composition references and I regularly check back to save photos)

                    the pinkish lighting on the early test you did is great. the stone looks a little bland though - the dirt is making the contrast between the light and dark look cartoony. maybe get some more varied texture into the main light parts.
                    Last edited by Neilg; 11-07-2014, 11:17 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I don't think I have seen full stone or brick, in new construction, in a decade. After you grout, you really can't tell, so it's a good place to save some money.
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                      • #12
                        You would probably have to go back 7-8 decades to see a building in non-cavity double wythe brick.

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                        • #13
                          Some small updates. I spend the better part of yesterday optimizing the scene, which was almost fun. I got the render times under an hour per image.

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                          Last edited by glorybound; 18-07-2014, 11:57 AM.
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                          • #14
                            I am back on this one.

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                            • #15
                              This last one looks much better. That fountain also looks much better with the top part removed. It looked like you just switched the thing on and the water didn't get a chance to fall down yet. Something strange happening to the ridge tile at that double kink towards the bottom. Seems like parts got cut out from it. The hedges, grass and plants looks very nice.

                              Just the sharp shadow the edge of the roof makes on the far right, makes it look like those trees were added in post (the trees on the far left look awesome). Could be just the angle of the sun.

                              That slight hazy glow on the far left looks nice. Is that PS or VRay Lens Effects?

                              I like the overall look and feel of this one. Well done!
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