New pc for vray next

[jackieteh]

Hi, I want to buy a new pc for vray next and my daily work, may i know which one should go for? hoping can get some advice here, thank you.

[Neilg]

I'd go with the first one. SSD is essential. to make a xeon worth it I feel you have to go dual, they demand a higher investment.
Get 64gb of ram.

[jackieteh]

I'd go with the first one. SSD is essential. to make a xeon worth it I feel you have to go dual, they demand a higher investment.
Get 64gb of ram.

Thank you for your fast respond, do you mean if I afford to buy two processor I better buy the second one?
since i read a lot of problem of window 10, i am thinking to use window 7 pro

[Neilg]

Thank you for your fast respond, do you mean if I afford to buy two processor I better buy the second one?

Not really - the point I was trying to make is that if you spent the same amount of money on both the i7 would be much better.
xeons never beat them for price to performance ratio, however if you have an unlimited budget spending $1800 on a pair of xeons will outperform an i7 - only because they dont make an $1800 i7. The ceiling is higher if you have the money - I dont think it is ever worth it to spend that much money on a processor though.

I use windows 7 at home and in work, I had a windows 10 laptop but I dont trust it to do 3d work.

[jackieteh]

Hi my pc shop here recommended me to buy AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper 1950X, should go for this one? is it support Vray Next?
and i also thinking to use window 7 on this new pc but the shop guy said it didn't not support window 7, must use window 10

[savage309]

ThreadRipper is supported and works great

Best,
Blago.

[Raven]

If you can afford to wait, maybe look at the Threadripper 2. They have said third quarter for release. Or get a normal Treadripper then as they will probably have a bunch of spea

[jackieteh]

ThreadRipper is supported and works great

Best,
Blago.

Thanks for your answer, but someone told it will got problem if using AMD mix with Intel processor, is this true? i never use AMD before, i have a lot of question in my head, like: if i do animation with my AMD pc, save file and upload to renderfarm (most of the renderfarm using intel, right?), will it got problem to render?

[jackieteh]

If you can afford to wait, maybe look at the Threadripper 2. They have said third quarter for release. Or get a normal Treadripper then as they will probably have a bunch of spea

wow! Threadripper 2..i think i should go AMD website to have a look...Thank you for your info.

[Alex_M]

Thanks for your answer, but someone told it will got problem if using AMD mix with Intel processor, is this true? i never use AMD before, i have a lot of question in my head, like: if i do animation with my AMD pc, save file and upload to renderfarm (most of the renderfarm using intel, right?), will it got problem to render?

I'm using a Threadripper 1950X in combination with two Intel i7 systems for rendering. Not a single problem so far. You'll be just fine. Also, as Raven suggested, you might want to check out Thredripper 2. It is going to be 5-10% faster than the 1st gen Threadripper for the same amount of cores. Also, AMD will be offering a 24-core and 32-core variant if you need this many cores. Oh, and yes, you'll need to install Windows 10. Windows 7 won't work with Threadripper.

[jackieteh]

I'm using a Threadripper 1950X in combination with two Intel i7 systems for rendering. Not a single problem so far. You'll be just fine. Also, as Raven suggested, you might want to check out Thredripper 2. It is going to be 5-10% faster than the 1st gen Threadripper for the same amount of cores. Also, AMD will be offering a 24-core and 32-core variant if you need this many cores. Oh, and yes, you'll need to install Windows 10. Windows 7 won't work with Threadripper.

Thank you for your clarify, the guy said they got problem with combination AMD and Intel i7, some object missing when rendering. Abit sad when i know Threadripple must install window 10, i heard a lot of problem of window 10 + 3dsmax, something like when window 10 update, 3dsmax or vray will hang, and the window 10 update cannot be turn off....

It really give a headache, make me feel so difficult to choose a new pc between AMD or Intel, Window 10 or Window 7...blah blah blah...

[Alex_M]

Thank you for your clarify, the guy said they got problem with combination AMD and Intel i7, some object missing when rendering.

This doesn't make any sense. No matter what brand or model CPU you use, they execute the same code. The problem with the missing objects must be because some of the machines cannot access the assets (maps, xrefs, proxies) over the network.

Abit sad when i know Threadripple must install window 10, i heard a lot of problem of window 10 + 3dsmax, something like when window 10 update, 3dsmax or vray will hang, and the window 10 update cannot be turn off....

I've never had Windows or Vray hang on the AMD or the Intel machines with Windows 10. By the way, more and more new hardware is developed with modern OS in mind like Windows 8 and 10.

It really give a headache, make me feel so difficult to choose a new pc between AMD or Intel, Window 10 or Window 7...blah blah blah...

I would not say it's that difficult. Just check prices and benchmarks and see whats the best bang for your buck in your budget range. Currently, AMD are the king of performance per dollar and their CPUs are fantastic for rendering. Intel have very good CPUs but often they are 50-100% more expensive than the AMD equivalents for literally just 5-10% speed difference. The only thing that I can recommend Intel CPUs at the moment is gaming and apps that don't support multi-core CPUs.

[jackieteh]

This doesn't make any sense. No matter what brand or model CPU you use, they execute the same code. The problem with the missing objects must be because some of the machines cannot access the assets (maps, xrefs, proxies) over the network.


I've never had Windows or Vray hang on the AMD or the Intel machines with Windows 10. By the way, more and more new hardware is developed with modern OS in mind like Windows 8 and 10.


I would not say it's that difficult. Just check prices and benchmarks and see whats the best bang for your buck in your budget range. Currently, AMD are the king of performance per dollar and their CPUs are fantastic for rendering. Intel have very good CPUs but often they are 50-100% more expensive than the AMD equivalents for literally just 5-10% speed difference. The only thing that I can recommend Intel CPUs at the moment is gaming and apps that don't support multi-core CPUs.

Hi Alex_M,

below is the spec i get from a pc store:

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X@4.0GHz (16cores, 32 Thread)
Asus AMD TR4 X399-A PRIME X399-AMotherboard
Kingston 16GB HyperX FURY DDR4-3400MHz ram Black 64GB (16GBx4)
Samsung 970 Pro M.2 512GB SSD
2TB 7200RPM 3.5" Sata HDD
Leadtek NVIDIA Quadro P2000 1st GFX 5GB
Cooler Master Platinum 1200W (90Plus) Power Supply
Themaltake Water 3.0 Extreme S/AIO Liquid Cooling S (CLW0224-B)
AOC 13294VWH FHD LED Monitor 32"

Total amount: 16900 MYR

If i want to reduce the price, what item should i take out or decrease?

[ijzerman86]

Dont get 3400mhz ram, its super expensive
I think the investment of money doesn't live up to the speed increase
Running at 2800 mhz here on 3 threadrippers.

[jackieteh]

Dont get 3400mhz ram, its super expensive
I think the investment of money doesn't live up to the speed increase
Running at 2800 mhz here on 3 threadrippers.

i am thinking to change it to 2400 mhz