Ivy Generator for 3DS MAX 2019

[glorybound]

Yes, taken out co context this holds true, however, he got mad about not getting money for something he was giving away. It is more of a case, you hurt me I'll hurt you 10X as much, which tells you something about where someone's heart is at; a little callus.

[Neilg]

You don't complain about place when you get free lunch.

That's the funny thing about human psychology... people sometimes do complain more when they get things for free. Add in donations, where those who give money don't feel like they bought something but actually like they actually did the creator a favour and you're in a whole new world of entitlement.

nobody owes you shit and it still works if you keep an old copy of max around. software companies can go out of business, autodesk can scupper your software, people can just decide they dont want to do something anymore. you have to adapt and work around it, you cannot expect the lives of others to always be in alignment with what you want from them.

[glorybound]

He was quoted saying he didn't make enough money to cover the web domain. It is his prerogative to do what he wants with something he created. We can thank him for what he provided for the time he provided it, I guess.

[gandhics]

He never gave me anything for free, I paid, so he deserves my opinion.

Are you sure ‘he’ thought and cared what his paying customers ‘deserved’ ?

Anyway this is all excuses. I think he didn’t want to update anything, including his outdated website. Just the few people I know who paid at the time *when he complained* ran into a couple hundred bucks.

You donated.
That does not mean you are entitled to something.
This is exactly why I don't even accept donation when I release something.
What does updating website to do with this.
You don't complain about place when you get free lunch.

[gandhics]

Why would you do something for nothing? You do something to help someone, make money, sharpen your skill, entertain yourself.... you don't do something for nothing.

Then, let's say he did to help others.
But, that doesn't mean he need to "Sell or give the code to someone who could keep it updated."
You are not entitled to anything.
It was his courtesy.

[glorybound]

Agreed, however, I don't get sticking it to the community. Sell or give the code to someone who could keep it updated. If he dislikes us so much, good luck working in the industry of people you don't like.

[Neilg]

I guess this thread has managed to illustrate the 7 stages of using a free plugin and serves as a pretty clear cut example of how we ended up where we are.

[glorybound]

This is C++ plugin. Not a script.
I have done things for nothing.
Not everything is about money.

Why would you do something for nothing? You do something to help someone, make money, sharpen your skill, entertain yourself.... you don't do something for nothing.

[JezUK]

Wow.. really?
After all those years of giving out for free, this is what he deserves?

He never gave me anything for free, I paid, so he deserves my opinion.

Are you sure ‘he’ thought and cared what his paying customers ‘deserved’ ?

Anyway this is all excuses. I think he didn’t want to update anything, including his outdated website. Just the few people I know who paid at the time *when he complained* ran into a couple hundred bucks.

[gandhics]

I don't have a clue but how much effort does it take to update a script for a new MAX update? Hours? Nothing is done for nothing. He could have drove web traffic to his personal webpage, sold ads.... there has to be more to it.

This is C++ plugin. Not a script.
I have done things for nothing.
Not everything is about money.

[glorybound]

I don't have a clue but how much effort does it take to update a script for a new MAX update? Hours? Nothing is done for nothing. He could have drove web traffic to his personal webpage, sold ads.... there has to be more to it.

[gandhics]

this level of immaturity and small mindedness.

Wow.. really?
After all those years of giving out for free, this is what he deserves?

[gandhics]

No, I read an interview he gave and he said that the donations he got didn't even cover the cost of the domain.

He just pointed out that he had been done even without much of compensation.
If the money was the problem, he would have stopped long time ago.

[glorybound]

If ever I need an ivy generator, I think I’ll just go to GrowFx. I can’t be doing with this level of immaturity and small mindedness.

it has also taught me to be a bit more careful dealing with websites which have no postal address, no person I can check credentials or online presence etc.

I watched a tutorial on climbing ivy in GrowFX and it was an hour long

[JezUK]

If ever I need an ivy generator, I think I’ll just go to GrowFx. I can’t be doing with this level of immaturity and small mindedness.

it has also taught me to be a bit more careful dealing with websites which have no postal address, no person I can check credentials or online presence etc.