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  • #31
    A few years ago Camera Map Gemini developer launched an Indiegogo campaign to finance the development of the plugin.
    That would be a good idea for Ivy Generator I think : the developer defines the minimum amount that he estimates would cover his efforts. If enough people back it it everyone's happy. If it doesn't reach the goal then maybe it's time to abandon it / release for free / ...

    mekene

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    • #32
      All he has to do is compile it for MAX 2019. I am not a programmer, so I am assuming it isn't a major undertaking.
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      • #33
        Just use GrowFX, more control, more artistic freedom. The time I sometimes spend regrowing that Ivy because it just seems to do what it wants is time I could spend doing other things.
        A.

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        • #34
          There is even a sketchup version and it works great so far.

          https://sketchucation.com/forums/vie...?f=323&t=36882

          show me the money!!

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          • #35
            As Vizioen said, GrowFX will give you a lot more freedom in Ivy creation. whats more, there is a chance we will finally get Grow FX with node creation graph soon and it will be wonderful to work with
            Martin
            http://www.pixelbox.cz

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            • #36
              I understand completely him.
              As an independent developer, I have created a lot of free tool for the Maya community (DeeX VRay Fast, DeeX Shader Pack for MentalRay, etc etc...DeeX Steroid that I didn't released because of this), and I always added a "donation" PayPal button.
              Th result?
              If I remember, in 6 years I got perhaps $80 in total, and a lot of $0.01, for thousand and thousand of downloads (with some tools used in production). $0.01 is not a mistake. A lot of people give $0.01. And this is funny because obviously PayPal has fees, so at the end this is....$0.
              So yes, $0.01 is little bit like an insult: "I want to use you tool but I will only give you back $0.01".
              So few year ago I started to do my first "commercial tool". It was better, and the only (big) downside is that you need to give support. And the problem sometime is, because people paid your tool (even if this is cheap), they think that they have the right to ask you everything.
              So I tried both experience:
              - free with donation: doesn't work
              - paid: work a little but time consuming

              For my last tool (DeeX Steroid), I will try a last thing: donation with a limit (like $29 minimum, $49 for support, etc etc).
              If it doesn't work, like him, I will stop.
              Simple.
              Sometime people think that things are easy. My last tool, I spend 2 months on it 2 hours each day on my free time. I don't think that having people that give $0.01 will motivate more. i am doing it for the community (I will not be rich), but...well.
              www.deex.info

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              • #37
                I guess though that you had thousands of people download because they could essentially get it for free. If you had had a minimum donate price, say, $10, maybe you'd have just had a hundred or so downloads ?

                At the end of the day you have to be clear in your own mind that you really are doing this for free and that people can *donate* whatever they want and you won't be disappointed/offended. Otherwise, you will be
                Last edited by JezUK; 19-07-2018, 06:49 AM.
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                • #38
                  if you want to get money then make it commercial....if it is going to be free then is free (means $0) ...if you want to collect donations then few people is going to do it but if you want to get the benefit of getting money like commercial but don't have the obligations then the problem is on the developer and don't get upset because donations are voluntary.
                  show me the money!!

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                  • #39
                    I read that he had over 35 hundred downloads and not enough money to keep the domain. Domains cost, for the most part, $19 a year. Personally, I donated a couple times and it would have paid for his domain for 4 years. Something fishy going on.
                    Bobby Parker
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by flino2004 View Post
                      if you want to get money then make it commercial....if it is going to be free then is free (means $0) ...if you want to collect donations then few people is going to do it but if you want to get the benefit of getting money like commercial but don't have the obligations then the problem is on the developer and don't get upset because donations are voluntary.
                      He did not complained if the donation was "enough".
                      It was the 0.01 donation which caused the problem.
                      donations are voluntary so does maintaining the plugin.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by gandhics View Post

                        He did not complained if the donation was "enough".
                        It was the 0.01 donation which caused the problem.
                        donations are voluntary so does maintaining the plugin.
                        No, I read an interview he gave and he said that the donations he got didn't even cover the cost of the domain.
                        Bobby Parker
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                        • #42
                          If ever I need an ivy generator, I think I’ll just go to GrowFx. I can’t be doing with this level of immaturity and small mindedness.

                          it has also taught me to be a bit more careful dealing with websites which have no postal address, no person I can check credentials or online presence etc.
                          Last edited by JezUK; 28-07-2018, 11:33 AM.
                          Jez

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JezUK View Post
                            If ever I need an ivy generator, I think I’ll just go to GrowFx. I can’t be doing with this level of immaturity and small mindedness.

                            it has also taught me to be a bit more careful dealing with websites which have no postal address, no person I can check credentials or online presence etc.
                            I watched a tutorial on climbing ivy in GrowFX and it was an hour long

                            Bobby Parker
                            www.bobby-parker.com
                            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                            phone: 2188206812

                            My current hardware setup:
                            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by glorybound View Post

                              No, I read an interview he gave and he said that the donations he got didn't even cover the cost of the domain.
                              He just pointed out that he had been done even without much of compensation.
                              If the money was the problem, he would have stopped long time ago.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by JezUK View Post
                                this level of immaturity and small mindedness.
                                Wow.. really?
                                After all those years of giving out for free, this is what he deserves?

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