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    Great images are everywhere if you wander Maxwell user forum for a while, as if everyone is artist or has a magic button; on the other hand, our VRAY users are more like 'technicians'....
    William
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  • #2
    well I can tell ya that Im starting to be able to recognize maxwell renders pretty accurately before even knowing what was used to render it. That to me isn't a strength.
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    • #3
      Hi Percy, the same goes for Vray ones in many cases...

      I don't agree on the technician comment. I also checked their forum to see some images, but a lot are really dull looking and make me think of 3D from 5 years ago. Also in maxwell it's the artist that has to do it, not the magical render button imo.
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      • #4
        A lot of maxwell images i was pointed to with sentences like "HEY CHECK THIS OUT IT IS SOOO COOOL" were simply put badly crafted. Some Boxes with a concrete map (with horrible uvw mapping and seams all over" and a physical skymodel and nothing more. Dont get me wrong that´s not a maxwell problem, but ppl tend to turn of their brains when things are hype sometimes :P Need an example ? There you go :

        http://www.maxwellrender.com/gallery.../archhi11.html

        This is featured in the official maxwell gallery and i was pointed at it by a "hyped" friend of mine. Take a look at the textures and the mapping...it´s simply not a good image at all. Textures are streched. Tiling is wrong. There´s seams and errors. Dont need to be a technician to see the problem i assum :P

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        • #5
          Originally posted by flipside
          Hi Percy, the same goes for Vray ones in many cases...

          I don't agree on the technician comment. I also checked their forum to see some images, but a lot are really dull looking and make me think of 3D from 5 years ago. Also in maxwell it's the artist that has to do it, not the magical render button imo.
          thats true I do also recognize vray images pretty easy as well. If its GI, and its arch vis, then 80% of the time, its vray.
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          • #6
            wander a little longer then and study the images, not the user comments (most of the time exaggerated)
            If you look carefully, the best images on the gallery come from one single studio, that happens to be working very closely with maxwell and a few others that produced stunning images long before maxwell released their first alpha.

            keep your head cool and don't fool yourself with their marketing tricks.
            You can contact StudioGijs for 3D visualization and 3D modeling related services and on-site training.

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            • #7
              at the end of the day maxwell and vray are both tools and nothing more, it what you do with them that counts

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              • #8
                Ah... Well...

                At the end of the day. Maxwell is still rendering the last 80% of the first immage ....


                lol.

                (dont take it serious)



                Tom

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by siliconbauhaus
                  at the end of the day maxwell and vray are both tools and nothing more, it what you do with them that counts
                  if I had a dime for everytime I heard that in a forum....
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                  • #10
                    then you probably wouldnt need to be rendering mate

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by percydaman
                      Originally posted by siliconbauhaus
                      at the end of the day maxwell and vray are both tools and nothing more, it what you do with them that counts
                      if I had a dime for everytime I heard that in a forum....
                      If I had a dime for everytime I heard you in the forum I would have 306.1$ wooohooow!
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                      • #12
                        Re: Maxwell

                        Originally posted by archcanvas
                        Great images are everywhere if you wander Maxwell user forum for a while, as if everyone is artist or has a magic button; on the other hand, our VRAY users are more like 'technicians'....
                        Well ..let's face one important point: vray is a productiontool.. fast ,with nice results and many user who need fast renderoutput have a technical background and also not the time to tweak quality.

                        I'm also bored of these wip's which looks so nice but when you ask the 3d artist if he can do it in 2-3 days instead of 2 month you will get so poor results, and i think most of the maxwell renderings are projects for many weeks... no wonder that it looks good.

                        Another reason why we all think maxwell looks so realistic, are the memories of the first renderings on the website ... they looked great - (perfect promotion - created desire) , but nearly all renderings used totaltextures which are superior. All renderings can be done by vray too.

                        so it's very relative.. vray is a production tool and maxwell have to be faster to be used by 3d artists which don't have the time to wait... and then the quality will decrease automaticaly!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by instinct
                          Need an example ? There you go :

                          http://www.maxwellrender.com/gallery.../archhi11.html

                          This is featured in the official maxwell gallery and i was pointed at it by a "hyped" friend of mine.
                          Thorsten
                          that image is AWSOME. COOL. BODATIOUS. GNARLY. COWABUNGA DUDE. ok. ok. ok. ill admit. its sucks monkeys b**ls is that bad. hehe. however people you must remember..... vray and maxwell are just tools (heheeh contributing to the "if i had a dime" fund)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by siliconbauhaus
                            then you probably wouldnt need to be rendering mate
                            haha, I could buy myself a reeeally nice steak dinner, but then Id go home and continue rendering.

                            My intention was in no way to belittle your point. Its just something Ive seen sooo often these days, that to ME its almost become so self evident, that why bother to point it out? Of course its still a well made point.
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                            • #15
                              I didnt feel belittled at all mate. I'm as fed up as everyone else is with the renderer comparisons.

                              Here's a image I did in mw and this was 30 mins of time

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