The Official World Cup Thread

[pengo]

joconelli great !!!!!!

about Zidane he do the same error Totti did in the previous world soccer cup he fells in the play of any defensive player (he always provoke the best player of the other team to make him nervous) seems strange from a professionist like him.
Anyway a win make us happy especially for those sad times for soccer in Italy

[studioDIM]

Eheh, i was drunk on Champagne, god bless the French!

I watched it at my friend's, here by Marseille.
I think that given the prize to win or lose, both teams were on the bleeding edge, psychologically.
Extremely nervous, contracted and tired.
It wasn't a wonderful game to watch, but for the inventions of our defense, and the inventions of their attack, on spells.
There have still been a few pearls here and there, but the players were definitely well cooked, imo.
Another game to "death".
Think the "Rocky" franchise: blow after parry after blow after parry and so on.
Willpower and hunger looked to me like the most appropriate attributes shown on the pitch.

Globally also fairly well refereed,as he played a bonus card on the second french penalty, clearly a foul in area, because he gave the first, non-existent, one.
Given the fatigue, i say the same method applied here as it did for the italy-germany match: don't blow the whistle unless the foul is clearly intentional and bad, and let the game flow.
Especially towards the end.
Holding Zizou like he did (belting him, not shirt pulling) is something you often see done.It doesn't mean the player that belts will HOLD the player in place for his very life, it's just a way to SENSE him.And the attacker IS fine being belted, as in the game of "sensing" he might unbalance the defender and slip through.
Try and ask Filippo Inzaghi for directions about that.
Words be words, they're not 10 years old kids: they have been at this for 20 years at least, and have probably said and heard it all before.
Zizou, as jonny said, just overcooked.
Plain sad it went like so: it killed the game for me for a while, while i reeled in what i just saw happen.
And i'm sad for Zizou, i hope he'll recover from this one with balance.

All opinions i might review given some time and after rewatching the game of course

Lele

[priad]

Just watch this,,,,, what do you think after.


http://inmorienteswetrust.football.f...foires-du-foot

[jonnybefree]

uuuh, round 1..... fight!

[instinct]

holy shit...what an asshole....

[ene.xis]

yeah that s the materazzi i know....
still i didn saw any of this during the matches on this world cup

so, i say... why r people standing against him?
c mon...he s an asshole, ok!
i dont think a infamous head butt is less stupid to the author not to be called the same!

in fact although i m a keen admire of zizou i was shocked that fifa awarded him with the player of the tournment... his behaviour was shamefull!

[jonnybefree]

but i think it was enough to give him the red card. his last match of career with a red card........
and he's done a big wc!

[ene.xis]

not arguing he didn t...
im just sayng fifa shoudn t be like the public judgment...ok it s his last competition and he was for me too untill that very minute the perfect candidate for the crown....but if that s the kind of behavior fifa want to avoid, and for sure that s not the example we like our kids to have....right?

i m just saying this because it seems to be some sort of arisyng opinion that he only did that cause materazzi is an asshole....


oh...and just to remember this is not the first time for zizou as u all might or might not know...

[instinct]

well sources claim that lipreaders read "Son of a Terrorist Whore" from his lips followed by "fuck off" from materazzi....while after beeing hold on his shirt zidane said "dont worry you can have the shirt after the match" (Note that this is nothing proven)...Still this COULD actually allow to have italy disqualified if PROVEN (wich both will not happen i assume) as the fifa had some new regulations....dont have any engluish readings on it tho...most likely the usual media hype....

anyways...if he'd have called me a son of a terrorist whore, i wouldnt have confined myself to a headbutt :P

(note there's a whole lot of sarcasm in this post...so dont head butt me )

Thorsten

[instinct]

here's some english reading :

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...263995,00.html

not the same as the german one i read (spiegel.de) but similar

Thorsten

[ene.xis]

jejeje

well, i i ve wondered what could be said to someone to make anyone react like that...and i don t get it...

and honestly...to think of disqualify any team for that is even dummer...then what about the celebrations in the end of the argentina germany match?

[instinct]

of course it is...i didnt say i would want them to....hell no...it's enough of a farce already....yhey should get their bloody investigation done, spit out some symbolic punishment as usual and finally bring all the speculating to an end!

By not reacting immediatly the FIFA is making a clown of itself once more...and the media ? Well seems they still havent read up on that "in dubio pro reo" thing

[ene.xis]

well the thing that bugs me most is that all this line of thought goes around the fact that zizou is not a first timer on this behaviour...not this serious sure...but never so nervous as he was not being able to deliver a performance for his career ending....

again i do like zizou...just don t like this bashing on the other small boy just cause its zizou...capice

[lukx]

I like that Zidane wasn't pussy and didin't care that this is his last game. "If you dont draw some lines, then get used to being run over". "After an exhaustive study of the match video, and with the help of an Italian translator, Rees claimed that Materazzi called Zidane “the son of a terrorist whore” before adding “so just f*** off” for good measure, supporting the natural assumption that the Frenchman must have been grievously insulted. " I'm shocked he just did what he did after hearing this phrase. He should aim higher than chest.

[mike.edel]

funny thing is, shortly before the world cup the fifa installed a new rule that if a player or even fan of a team insults an opposing player/team/fan in a rude (especially racist) way the team can be disqualified...

http://www.kickitout.org/files/Amend...inary_code.pdf

Par. 1: Anyone who publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamatory manner on account of face, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other racist and/or contemptuous act, will be subject to match suspension for at least five matches at every level. Furthermore, a stadium ban and a fine of at least CHF 20,000 will be imposed on the perpetrator. If the perpetrator is an official, the fine will be at least CHF 30,000.

[...]

Par. 4: If any player, association or club official or spectator perpetrates any kind of racist or contemptuous act as described by par. 1 and/or 2 of this article, three points will automatically be deducted from the team concerned, if identifiable, after the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will automatically be deducted, and for a further offence, the team will be relegated.
In the case of matches without points, the team concerned, if identifiable, will be disqualified.

could end up reaaaaly ugly if they can prove it...