cg skin experience

[roppin]

Does anybody here on this highly skilled forum have any experience on CG character´s CG skin plugin? I have huge problems on how to get the shoulders good when rigging/skinning And been thinking of cg skin as an altenative where I can have skin sliding.

would be very thankful for your input on this.

[joconnell]

Have you looked at paul neales dvd on this? Far as I remember you already had something with a stretch setup to deal with the skinning - was this the case?

I got good results with a setup like this:



I've never used cg skin admittedly and while it looks very good most creature setups I've seen are still using stretchy bones for most things...

[roppin]

Thanks for your reply. Yes. That's about what I got setup right now. Tried it simple like in your video, and with a lot more bones. and most of the time I think it works. But this character is moving his arm over his head, back and forth to the limits and I get so much bad deformation Its really hard to do something about it with skin morph. Especially sins it is a 3d joint. But I will make a last attempt using separate bones to trigger the skin morph and Skipp the 3d joint thing.
Any help on skin morph is appreciated

regards
/Daniel

[tom schuelke]

Ah,

this thread would be interisting for me too. i also thought about cgskinn,

my setup also was comparable, but i had to fight with this arghhhhl.aaksdjfalsdfjaölsdj....... skinnmodifier of max.

it didnt work realy well. no good mirroring, not intuitiv. it just was much much work, and at last i had to use many skinmorphtargets..

no way out.


Tom

[joconnell]

There's thoughts being made about skin simulation using maxscript to slide muscle shapes under a skin mesh but you're talking about hundreds of calculations a second so it mightn't be any where near interactive.

Only thing I can think of helping is auto clavicle movement as well - the milk caveman was quite a bulky character and most of the time the animators didnt use his clavicle when raising his arm which caused bad crashing in the mesh - I reckon you're smarter than a lot of animators so you've probably done that though.

Any chance of posting a viewport capture?

[roppin]

jconnell. I post a frame grab or a small animation as soon as possible. Would be very helpful if you can look at it. About the clavicle. I don't have it set up as automatic, but animate the Bone manually. The cavemen are really impressing. did you have use a lot of skin morphs?

/Daniel

[roppin]

I think I solved it for now: together with skin wrap. I realy like that tool. My first time with it. I ,allso got rid of the chest muscle bones. I cant get that right. Now what I use is, a clavicle bone and the arms. Just like the avarage rig you see Maybe I buy the cg muscle just to try it out. I fried the demo when I installed it some time ago and wasn´t able to use it during the 30 day period; It crashed max at start up. when I found out it couldn´t coexist with the reactor plugins I only had a day left or something

Thanks for the input!

this is the bugger i´m trying to skin