amd 4 core is out

[gilicom]

Anyone got 1?
How are they suppose to be?

[Blitterswitch]

Said who?

[palibebeh]

Are You talking about new quad-core 'Barcelona' opterons?

here's a quick review:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13176

xeon x5365 is about 15-20% faster, but eats a lot more energy.

[^Lele^]

http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3091&p=8

It says different here.
On same Mhz, the Barcelona should be 20% faster.
Then again, by the time the 3Ghz is out, intel will have a newer chip released, purportedly faster.
The good news for the likes of me is that a BIOS update will allow my pc to go from 2 to 4 cores.

[MoonDoggie]

What mobo you running lele?

[RErender]

http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3091&p=8

It says different here.
On same Mhz, the Barcelona should be 20% faster.
Then again, by the time the 3Ghz is out, intel will have a newer chip released, purportedly faster.
The good news for the likes of me is that a BIOS update will allow my pc to go from 2 to 4 cores.

It says the Barcelona is 20% faster than the old Opterons, not the Xeons.

[^Lele^]

Duh me, you're right, Eric.

Still it says it's around about the 2ghz Xeons, or just slightly slower.
I'm running an asus m2n32 sli deluxe, with am2 socket.
Of course i'll have to wait until single socket chips are out =]

edit: in the software rendering, though, the strength of the AMD integrated memory controller does shine: 2X2 (2.33 Ghz) from intel is slower than the AMD quad-core @2.0 Ghz

[werticus]

in australia a 2ghz amd is 1/2 the price of a 2ghz xeon

and they are mostly = speed.

so amd wins if your getting a dual socket machine. plus the power savings.

[Blitterswitch]

Are people still excited about a 2.0ghz processor? My £170 Q6600 is running at 3ghz and the new G0 stepping revision can be overclocked as far as 3.6ghz.

I just don't see anything exciting in AMDs product lines. The 20% increase in speed clock for clock is paltry when you take price into account. Intel now seriously has a chip for everyone and at price points it is hard to see AMD matching with a brand new product.

Talk of this Core2 competitior the tri-core phenom just shows to me that even with this new phenom range AMD is crapping them selves that it is not enough.

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/60130...core-cpus.html

[^Lele^]

Are people still excited about a 2.0ghz processor? My £170 Q6600 is running at 3ghz and the new G0 stepping revision can be overclocked as far as 3.6ghz.

Are people still excited at the MhZ race?
"Mine is bigger than yours" kind of thing?
I prefer a proper design as the AMD processors have, with integrated memory controller and an elegant one-speed-fits-it-all design, than the myriad of clocks in the intel designs, to be honest.
It also shows in some benchmarks, when they're done properly, that the memory access in AMDs is way better than that of Intels, more than making up for the clock "deficit".
And as stated above, i'll more than double my actual performance with as little as the price of their 4-core cpu and a BIOS update.
Now THAT excites me, ta very much.

[teabag]

its like the race betw people with plasmas and people with lcds...each group will tell u milions of reasons why to buy LCD or plasma

[Blitterswitch]

Well personally I would take the cheapest fastest available.

If that means its the bastardised welded together carbunkle thats fine by me!
Proper multi-core design and the worlds best integrated memory controller mean fook all if the other 'messy' older generation chip is rendering twice as quickly at the same price point.

I read today about the up and coming Intel 'Nehalem' cpus which will also have a similar integrated memory controller that barcelona sport and they will be out within the next 12 months. It just feels that Intel has wave after wave of updates that will destroy anything which AMD brings out.

I honestly was hoping that AMD would bring the goods to the table and I have 4x rendernodes crying out for a quad core solution, but from everything I have read I just don't see it happening.

[werticus]

no one has overclocked a barcelona yet - we dont know what they can do.

the point still stands

2ghz amd 1/2 the price of a 2ghz xeon.

you tend not to be able to overclock the multi cpu systems...

[Da_elf]

http://www.hothardware.com/News/AMD_...oms_Announced/

[Blitterswitch]

I mentioned that tri-core in my previous post. Sounds like their dual cores can't compete with the Intel dual cores.

But if you can have 3 cores why not have 4!

Silly move on AMDs part I feel.

Just spotted on a webpage a brief note of what Otellini from Intel said today:

"Otellini took the chance to have another swipe at AMD in the session when someone asked a question about 'Intel's nearest competitor,' and was clearly talking about AMD, but Otellini replied: 'Who? IBM?'"

I thought that was fairly amusing.