Autodesk charge additional fees for late subscription ???!!

[AJ Jefferies]

And dont forget, you still have to pay the salaries for the people in those 3 seats, electricity, incurance, etc etc

Obviously - but since we're only discussing the cost of subscriptions none of that's really relevant.

[glorybound]

I didn't realize it was only $495, which isn't to bad. I guess I should look at the invoices I sign

[Sawyer]

TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!!! How are we suppose to then justify ANY upgrades or extra plugins???

Yea you start max and your company looses money. I show my renderings to the client they go insane for them and then dont want to go back and look at cad plans again. But because we cant bill for it we have a loosing circle - the client wants more changes because they are more engaged in the design process (thought that was a good thing) but then everything has to happen just in CAD or back to max which wasnt included in the scope so you make the company loose $$$.

[glorybound]

Yea you start max and your company looses money. I show my renderings to the client they go insane for them and then dont want to go back and look at cad plans again. But because we cant bill for it we have a loosing circle - the client wants more changes because they are more engaged in the design process (thought that was a good thing) but then everything has to happen just in CAD or back to max which wasnt included in the scope so you make the company loose $$$.

In my experience, if it's free and just okay, it's good enough. I don't think anybody doubts that a photo-realistic render, that is well thought out, is better that a poorly done render. I think it simple economics.... if it gets the point across, and is a by-product of the model, then it'll work in a lot of cases. If you are trying to win a job, it's a different story. More often than not, the illustration I did for the last job, helps us get the next job. My time, for the most part, is a marketing exercise. Marketing, again for the most part, is an overhead. You can't bill the client for a billboard or webpage, either.