Peter Guthrie vs Hyperfocal HDRI

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Moofe is very expensive and licensed in weird way.

I suggest openfottage ones as they are quite good. Other than that I shot my own hdri with my d800 rig, I have my old HDR rig for sell if you are interested

[cadmonkey33]

I really don't understand why the people who make HDR pano's insist on removing the horizon. They should at least supply a version with and without.
It's the main reason I mostly stick with the daylight system.

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

What you mean cadmonkey33? With the horizon thini.

[cadmonkey33]

I mean the horizon and everything below (and some above presumably) has been removed and made black.
ie. no trees, hills, mountains, ground etc.
So you've got nothing to blend to, and unless you've spent ages modelling a full enviroment, all your reflections look crap.

[voltron7]

Sachform and Dosch, at least include everything...

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

I mean the horizon and everything below (and some above presumably) has been removed and made black.
ie. no trees, hills, mountains, ground etc.
So you've got nothing to blend to, and unless you've spent ages modelling a full enviroment, all your reflections look crap.

Ah yea true I agree. If there is no bottom then I dont know why they did HDR in 1st place whhh

[voltron7]

In past, I had avoided ones with all that stuff, as it often gave nice, but very out of scale reflections...not such an issue lately though.
Good point though, it does seem like a lot is "missing" in a sense...

[Neilg]

Haha, I wont use HDR's that dont have that removed because reflections are wildly out of scale. Like a tree suddenly becomes 200 feet tall just because the hdri was taken too close to it.

[voltron7]

Haha, I wont use HDR's that dont have that removed because reflections are wildly out of scale. Like a tree suddenly becomes 200 feet tall just because the hdri was taken too close to it.

exactly

[instinct]

Haha, I wont use HDR's that dont have that removed because reflections are wildly out of scale. Like a tree suddenly becomes 200 feet tall just because the hdri was taken too close to it.

Quoted for agreement

[cadmonkey33]

Haha, I wont use HDR's that dont have that removed because reflections are wildly out of scale. Like a tree suddenly becomes 200 feet tall just because the hdri was taken too close to it.

yeah, i can see how that would be an issue with some hdr's.
you must spend a lot of time hiding the horizon from every angle.
at least with a full hdr you can add geometry for near objects and rely on the hdr to fill the gaps.

[3DMK]

I got Dutch Skies Vol[4] recently & although I can't compare it to others, I found them to be good quality & extremely good value considering how many there was on the DVD, as well as back-plates included

http://www.bobgroothuis.com/blog/category/online-shop/

[voltron7]

I got Dutch Skies Vol[4] recently & although I can't compare it to others, I found them to be good quality & extremely good value considering how many there was on the DVD, as well as back-plates included

http://www.bobgroothuis.com/blog/category/online-shop/

3DMK, thanks for that info...they do look quite good.

[JeffG2]

Guthrie, I believe, has been upgrading his product. I can now get good, sharp shadows, etc. with the hdri alone and with no Vraysun.

I do still have to set the gamma to .675 to get good contrast.

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

no horizon is the way to go to avoid any out of scale reflection issues that for sure.....how many times was i badly surprised while viewing final renders

Jeff:
i think the best way to have a good control is to have a double vraydomelight system....one for the light, one for the reflections, works beautifully