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  • Formula for "Save for Web"?

    Hi all

    Is there some kind of formula I can apply to this?
    I remember CGTalk had a thing where they said 1600px wide, you can "save for web" and optomise to file size 500kb. My images always came out pretty good.

    I'm however going larger now for the whole "retina" deal etc so was just wondering if my images are at "X"px resolution wide, to what size can I safely "save for web", get a good small file size and good quality image?
    Kind Regards,
    Morne

  • #2
    Photoshop CC moved their 'save for web', but it's still there, only it's now called a legacy tool under export. I go 1920 x 1080 and I use the 'save for web', which is recommended by Squarespace.
    Bobby Parker
    www.bobby-parker.com
    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
    phone: 2188206812

    My current hardware setup:
    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
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    • #3
      I'm leaning towards optimising 2200px wide to 700kb
      Kind Regards,
      Morne

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Morne View Post
        I'm leaning towards optimising 2200px wide to 700kb
        I would test your website speed. Google will frown upon it if it loads too slow. Maybe, a thumbnail first and then a high resolution light box on click.
        Bobby Parker
        www.bobby-parker.com
        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
        phone: 2188206812

        My current hardware setup:
        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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        • #5
          Leigh over at CGTalk reckons it's not something to worry about too much. Internet speeds is not what it was 5 years ago. I tend to agree with her, although I would still do some optimizing for the sake of speed tests etc...
          Kind Regards,
          Morne

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          • #6
            Google cares and they use it to rank your site. http://www.searchenginejournal.com/s...d-2014/111924/
            Originally posted by Morne View Post
            Leigh over at CGTalk reckons it's not something to worry about too much. Internet speeds is not what it was 5 years ago. I tend to agree with her, although I would still do some optimizing for the sake of speed tests etc...
            Bobby Parker
            www.bobby-parker.com
            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
            phone: 2188206812

            My current hardware setup:
            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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            • #7
              Ahhh good to know. Thanks for the link Bobby
              Kind Regards,
              Morne

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              • #8
                My pleasure. Currently I rank #1 for two of my key phrases; I pay attention to these things.

                • Architectural renderings
                • Exterior renderings


                I run tools to check for things like this. If my site gets to heavy and loads slow, I'll get a red flag; and I am talking milliseconds.
                Bobby Parker
                www.bobby-parker.com
                e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                phone: 2188206812

                My current hardware setup:
                • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                • #9
                  If you're using a service like Squarespace then it is creating it's own compressed and resized versions of your images behind the scenes anyway. Therefore it's best to give it the highest quality file to start off with. Does that make sense?

                  Originally posted by glorybound
                  Currently I rank #1 for two of my key phrases; I pay attention to these things.
                  Bear in mind that google ranking doesn't mean you'll always turn up on the first page. Search results are skewed by user's previous search terms and site visits. Doing a rank search puts bobby-parker.com at number 6 for "Architectural renderings" but when I search for the term in google.com your site doesn't turn up until the 4th page.
                  MDI Digital
                  moonjam

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                  • #10
                    I monitor Google rankings in the US, so it is probably different in the UK. I don't search to find my rankings, I use a service, which tells me the rankings of my key phrases. Anyway, I guess the point is, size does matter
                    Bobby Parker
                    www.bobby-parker.com
                    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                    phone: 2188206812

                    My current hardware setup:
                    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by glorybound View Post
                      I monitor Google rankings in the US, so it is probably different in the UK. I don't search to find my rankings, I use a service, which tells me the rankings of my key phrases. Anyway, I guess the point is, size does matter
                      Only if your key demographic is people from all parts of life who know nothing about the process of procuring computer generated imagery who happen to hear that it is nominally referred to as "Architectural Renderings", or "Exterior Renderings". In that case you open up a whole can of worms because the time you spend on SEO can easily quash any and all attempts at establishing long term relationships because selling CGI isn't like selling blinds, windows, front doors, or underwear on the internet..... (Insert Emoticon Here)

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                      • #12
                        I was going to say... if you're using Squarespace (as I am too), then when you upload anything it will be converted and re-compressed internally, rendering any work you spent on filesizes etc. moot. The important things to look out for are a good resolution and for it to look as you want it to look at 100% in terms of sharpness. Other than that, I would save everything to Q9 or Q10 jpeg and be done with it.
                        Alex York
                        Founder of Atelier York - Bespoke Architectural Visualisation
                        www.atelieryork.co.uk

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                        • #13
                          I only speak from experience. I was having long load times and I emailed Squarespace. They told me to optimize my images at 1920 x 1080.

                          Originally posted by alexyork View Post
                          I was going to say... if you're using Squarespace (as I am too), then when you upload anything it will be converted and re-compressed internally, rendering any work you spent on filesizes etc. moot. The important things to look out for are a good resolution and for it to look as you want it to look at 100% in terms of sharpness. Other than that, I would save everything to Q9 or Q10 jpeg and be done with it.
                          Bobby Parker
                          www.bobby-parker.com
                          e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                          phone: 2188206812

                          My current hardware setup:
                          • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                          • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                          • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                          • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                          • #14
                            I am not sure what that means.

                            Originally posted by rusteberg View Post
                            Only if your key demographic is people from all parts of life who know nothing about the process of procuring computer generated imagery who happen to hear that it is nominally referred to as "Architectural Renderings", or "Exterior Renderings". In that case you open up a whole can of worms because the time you spend on SEO can easily quash any and all attempts at establishing long term relationships because selling CGI isn't like selling blinds, windows, front doors, or underwear on the internet..... (Insert Emoticon Here)
                            Bobby Parker
                            www.bobby-parker.com
                            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                            phone: 2188206812

                            My current hardware setup:
                            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                            • #15
                              He's saying that the kind of people who google 'architectural renderings' are (99.99% of the time) not going to be the kind of people you can have a good professional relationship with.

                              It's like advertising in the Yellow Pages, the people who look in there for CGI artists are, by default, not going to be good to work with.
                              MDI Digital
                              moonjam

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