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    Hi,

    I'm using vay denosier to denoise. After rendering. But I don't see any big difference in filtered and non-filtered images.
    please help what i'm missing here.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Q...ew?usp=sharing


    Here are the setting have used to render the output.


    Image sampler : Progressive min shading rate 03

    AA Filter Type : Area Size : 1.500

    Prograssive

    Min subdivs : 1
    Max subdives: 32
    Noise threshold : 0.040
    Max. render time(min) : 10.000
    Ray Bundle size : 128

    DMC Sampler

    Animated noise pattern : On
    Use local subdivs : On
    subdive mulr : 1

    DMC sampler - Advanced

    Adaptive amount : 0.850
    Adaptive threshold : 0.04
    Adaptive Min samples : 16

    included the denosier in the elements tab.

    Same image link as above
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Q...ew?usp=sharing


    Thanks and Regards,
    Vivek Lakhanpal
    +91 7069170051 (Also on Whatsapp)
    SkypeID: vivek.lakhanpal15

  • #2
    Would it be possible also the send us the scene for investigation?
    The settings looks fine at first glance, I did a quick test on a very simple scene and can confirm that they work fine.
    There might be something in the scene or perhaps in the Denoiser settings that prevents Denoiser to do its job properly.
    Svetlozar Draganov | Senior Manager 3D Support | contact us
    Chaos & Enscape & Cylindo are now one!

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    • #3
      Hi,
      Thanks for the reply.

      Here is the link of scene file.

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Q...ew?usp=sharing



      Thanks and Regards,
      Vivek Lakhanpal
      +91 7069170051 (Also on Whatsapp)
      SkypeID: vivek.lakhanpal15

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      • #4
        Originally posted by svetlozar.draganov View Post
        Would it be possible also the send us the scene for investigation?
        The settings looks fine at first glance, I did a quick test on a very simple scene and can confirm that they work fine.
        There might be something in the scene or perhaps in the Denoiser settings that prevents Denoiser to do its job properly.


        Hi,
        Thanks for the reply.

        Here is the link of scene file.

        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Q...ew?usp=sharing



        Thanks and Regards,
        Vivek Lakhanpal
        +91 7069170051 (Also on Whatsapp)
        SkypeID: vivek.lakhanpal15

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        • #5
          Don't know why I cannot download the file from neither of the both links you send us.
          This is what I get when tried from the first one: Click image for larger version

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          And this is from the second one: Click image for larger version

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          Would you please send it to svetlozar.draganov@chaosgroup.com
          Svetlozar Draganov | Senior Manager 3D Support | contact us
          Chaos & Enscape & Cylindo are now one!

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          • #6
            Looks like it's Firefox related, Chrome was able to download the file so please disregard my previous post.
            Svetlozar Draganov | Senior Manager 3D Support | contact us
            Chaos & Enscape & Cylindo are now one!

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            • #7
              I think I figure it out, the scene uses the old sampling method which is not suitable for denoising and even though it kinda works the result is not correct.
              Please either reset the whole Render Settings by selecting the Defalut Settings from here: Click image for larger version

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              Or if you would like to keep the settings but just update the sampling method execute the following MEL command:
              Code:
              setAttr vraySettings.dmcAdaptiveMethod 1
              Let us know if that resolves the issue or not.
              Svetlozar Draganov | Senior Manager 3D Support | contact us
              Chaos & Enscape & Cylindo are now one!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by svetlozar.draganov View Post
                I think I figure it out, the scene uses the old sampling method which is not suitable for denoising and even though it kinda works the result is not correct.
                Please either reset the whole Render Settings by selecting the Defalut Settings from here: [ATTACH=CONFIG]37892[/ATTACH]
                Or if you would like to keep the settings but just update the sampling method execute the following MEL command:
                Code:
                setAttr vraySettings.dmcAdaptiveMethod 1
                Let us know if that resolves the issue or not.

                Hi,

                Thanks for looking into the scene.

                Resetting the settings helped. Now I think I'm getting much better outputs. But this make me ask this

                Was it because the settings I did using 3.4 older version ?. But now as I'm using 3.5 which shows a drastic change in the results.

                The scene file I shared was working on 3.4 and the settings for that looked pretty good, as I went back and forth through the tutorials and documentations. But yes, the output taken on the older version looked the same as I shared.

                Please share if I'm missing something.


                Thanks and Regards,
                Vivek Lakhanpal
                +91 7069170051 (Also on Whatsapp)
                SkypeID: vivek.lakhanpal15

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                • #9
                  Hi,

                  Thanks for looking into the scene.

                  Resetting the settings helped. Now I think I'm getting much better outputs. But this make me ask this

                  Was it because the settings I did using 3.4 older version ?. But now as I'm using 3.5 which shows a drastic change in the results.

                  The scene file I shared was working on 3.4 and the settings for that looked pretty good, as I went back and forth through the tutorials and documentations. But yes, the output taken on the older version looked the same as I shared.

                  Please share if I'm missing something.


                  Thanks and Regards,
                  Vivek Lakhanpal
                  +91 7069170051 (Also on Whatsapp)
                  SkypeID: vivek.lakhanpal15

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                  • #10
                    I think the dmcAdaptiveMethod (from the script line from Svetlozar) is something that was introduced with V-Ray 3.3 and later, so the scene you had with 3.4 must have originally come from 3.3 or older version.
                    If you do have concerns about different renders, do share some images/scenes with us and we'll have a look.
                    Alex Yolov
                    Product Manager
                    V-Ray for Maya, Chaos Player
                    www.chaos.com

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by yolov View Post
                      I think the dmcAdaptiveMethod (from the script line from Svetlozar) is something that was introduced with V-Ray 3.3 and later, so the scene you had with 3.4 must have originally come from 3.3 or older version.
                      If you do have concerns about different renders, do share some images/scenes with us and we'll have a look.

                      Thanks for the reply.

                      scene was created in 3.4 only but was not getting proper results with denoiser so updated vray to 3.5. After which I had just changed the setting as mentioned in below messages. which did solved the issue in 3.5.

                      But still the incorrect output from 3.4 version though the setting for the version looked good.

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                      • #12
                        Can you show us an example of that incorrect output?
                        Alex Yolov
                        Product Manager
                        V-Ray for Maya, Chaos Player
                        www.chaos.com

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