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    What really takes so long for a scene to render? Let's say I have a scene that takes 10hrs to render with 1 machine. If I add a second machine, that is exactly the same as the first machine, I would assume my render times would be cut in half. So, if I simple add 5 of exactly the same machines, why am I not seeing near real time rendering?
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  • #2
    am I mising something in your question? Maybe I dont understand what you mean?
    10 / 5 = 2hr
    10 / 7 = still more than 1 hour. You will have to add a lot more to get near real time
    ?
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    Morne

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    • #3
      every time I add a machine, I should reduce the render time by 1/2 (in theory).
      Bobby Parker
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      • #4
        I don't know the answer, but things with half-lives never reach zero.
        Colin Senner

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        • #5
          Originally posted by glorybound View Post
          every time I add a machine, I should reduce the render time by 1/2 (in theory).
          No, every time you double the number of render nodes you halve the render time.
          Dan Brew

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanielBrew View Post
            No, every time you double the number of render nodes you halve the render time.
            Isn't that what I said?
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            • #7
              No, you said each time you add one machine you halve the render time. That should only be the case when you go from 1 machine to 2. To halve it again, you'd need 4 machines, not 3.
              Colin Senner

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              • #8
                Yes. That is what I meant to say
                Originally posted by MoonDoggie View Post
                No, you said each time you add one machine you halve the render time. That should only be the case when you go from 1 machine to 2. To halve it again, you'd need 4 machines, not 3.
                Bobby Parker
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                My current hardware setup:
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                • #9
                  It'll take 1/6 the render time, surely?
                  Kind Regards,
                  Richard Birket
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                  • #10
                    No. of Machines Render Time (mins:secs)
                    1
                    10:00
                    2
                    5:00
                    3
                    3:20
                    4
                    2:30
                    5
                    2:00
                    6
                    1:40
                    7
                    1:26
                    8
                    1:15
                    9
                    1:07
                    10
                    1:00
                    Assuming all machines are equal, network is infinitely fast and VRay scales perfectly.
                    Dan Brew

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                    • #11
                      01 machine = 10hrs

                      02 machines - 5hrs
                      04 machines - 2.5hrs
                      08 machines - 1 1/4hrs
                      16 machines - 31 min
                      32 machines - 16 min
                      64 machines - 8 min
                      128 machines - 4 min
                      256 machines - 2 min
                      512 machines - 1 min

                      Google announced a cloud service and the demo was remarkable.
                      Bobby Parker
                      www.bobby-parker.com
                      e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                      phone: 2188206812

                      My current hardware setup:
                      • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                      • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                      • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                      • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                      • #12
                        funny... we posted at the same time. How are you getting these numbers? What formula?
                        Originally posted by DanielBrew View Post
                        No. of Machines Render Time (mins:secs)
                        1
                        10:00
                        2
                        5:00
                        3
                        3:20
                        4
                        2:30
                        5
                        2:00
                        6
                        1:40
                        7
                        1:26
                        8
                        1:15
                        9
                        1:07
                        10
                        1:00
                        Assuming all machines are equal, network is infinitely fast and VRay scales perfectly.
                        Bobby Parker
                        www.bobby-parker.com
                        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                        phone: 2188206812

                        My current hardware setup:
                        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by glorybound View Post
                          funny... we posted at the same time. How are you getting these numbers? What formula?
                          By dividing the render time by the number of machines.
                          Dan Brew

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                          • #14
                            Here is an article on Google announcement yesterday - 7700k cores available for a single app.

                            http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/06/28/google-enters-iaas-fray-with-compute-engine/
                            Last edited by glorybound; 29-06-2012, 08:27 AM.
                            Bobby Parker
                            www.bobby-parker.com
                            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                            phone: 2188206812

                            My current hardware setup:
                            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanielBrew View Post
                              By dividing the render time by the number of machines.
                              Am I misunderstanding this as well? Isn't it obvious? Almost tooooo obvious
                              Kind Regards,
                              Richard Birket
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                              http://www.blinkimage.com

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