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  • #16
    Ask to see a photograph as an example. It sounds like someone who knows enough to be dangerous. In my experience, subtle wins. I set my white balance and I apply a subtle PS photo filter to warm things up, but I do it so you can only really tell when you toggle it off/on. Personally, I don't like the yellow overcast that you get without a white balance, a photographer would get fired if he didn't correct it.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by glorybound View Post
      Ask to see a photograph as an example. It sounds like someone who knows enough to be dangerous. In my experience, subtle wins. I set my white balance and I apply a subtle PS photo filter to warm things up, but I do it so you can only really tell when you toggle it off/on. Personally, I don't like the yellow overcast that you get without a white balance, a photographer would get fired if he didn't correct it.
      This is the reference they sent to me.

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      • #18
        I think any photographer would do a color balance to that, but that is just my opinion
        Originally posted by jackieteh View Post
        This is the reference they sent to me.

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        • #19
          Well here are the things off the top of my head which would make your rendering more photorealistic.

          1) Add fire suppression sprinklers.
          2) Add air vents.
          3) Mix up the color of the counter tops of the vendors.
          4) If that back wall is supposed to be shops, use shops of photos in the background to break up the color.
          5) Add a little more variation in tone and color to the floor tiles.
          6) Add an edge-chamfer bump to everything.
          7) Add some muti-colored lights in each of the vendor.
          Post-processing.
          9) More variation in the furniture. That photo has different colored chairs and just different colors in general so that it's not one of two exact colors.

          Ultimately anything that breaks up the monotone grayness of the rendering will give it more reality. If it's too dark you also might want to add more bounces of GI. The difference between 1 and 3 bounces can be very large sometimes.

          Their example for instance is a mixed color temperature situation where they have daylight at 5600 coming in from a skylight and back windows. That doesn't appear to be possible in this case. But if you try white-balancing the image it's informative to see how much variation there is in the color of the light which gives it subliminal reality. It might look "orange" and warm, but within that orange there is a lot of color revealed if you white balance the camera for orange. Look at how much variation there is in the color. I don't recommend going that extreme but it demonstrates well that there's usually some variation unless you have the budget for a photo shoot to replace all the lighting in a scene with consistent practical bulbs etc.
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          • #20
            Did someone sent the render to Vlado? I am curious what he want to try out with it!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by glorybound View Post
              I think any photographer would do a color balance to that, but that is just my opinion
              I know, but we have to follow what client sent to us right? the photo they send to me look yellowish

              Originally posted by im.thatoneguy View Post
              If it's too dark you also might want to add more bounces of GI. The difference between 1 and 3 bounces can be very large sometimes.
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              wow! thank you very much for such a lot of add on, i will do all that, let see what is the turn out
              but is the bounces you mention here is the brute force secondary bounce?

              Originally posted by kosso_olli View Post
              Did someone sent the render to Vlado? I am curious what he want to try out with it!
              I wonder too, but what Vlado asking me to send is the lighting which i have post here, when he ask, i already do all the lighting changes to turn down the yellowish look and brighten up the whole scene according to my client. anyway, if Vlado want me to send the current image, i am happy to do that, because i am curious what is in Vlado minds too
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              • #22
                Originally posted by vlado View Post
                Can you post the image from the first post as an OpenEXR file out of the V-Ray frame buffer? I want to try something...

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                Hi Vlado,

                i got some free time this few days,i am trying to get the same lighting as first post, may i know how can i save the image in openEXR file? and what bits you want me to save, 16bits or 32bits? after save the image, where should i send the file?

                i am wonder what you wanna do with it
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by jackieteh View Post
                  wow! this is nice, but my client will say the light is not 3000K
                  Will the image be for marketing, or just for your client to see what it will look like?

                  Because if it's for marketing, client is shooting himself in the foot on that one :P

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                  • #24
                    With the suggested changes and such i would also add the lighting for the food vendors as well because the light from inside those will also spill in to the main hall and add a bit more to make it look less dark. Judging from your reference photo the food vendors are a cooler colour and brighter compared to the rest of the pot lights in the main hall.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Richard7666 View Post
                      Will the image be for marketing, or just for your client to see what it will look like?

                      Because if it's for marketing, client is shooting himself in the foot on that one :P
                      not for marketing, just for themselves to see what it look like.

                      Originally posted by Syclone1 View Post
                      With the suggested changes and such i would also add the lighting for the food vendors as well because the light from inside those will also spill in to the main hall and add a bit more to make it look less dark. Judging from your reference photo the food vendors are a cooler colour and brighter compared to the rest of the pot lights in the main hall.
                      Thank you very much for you and others professional artist advice here, my client have finally accept the 3d rendering.
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