sea whirlpool

[cb LLC]

You can check how the scene is setup in the attached file

Thank you! And one more question how do I do it seamlessly for the ocean. With initial fill I get no hole and square border, without it I get like a box. Thanks!

[cb LLC]

Thank you! And one more question how do I do it seamlessly for the ocean. With initial fill I get no hole and square border, without it I get like a box. Thanks!

[hammerbchen]

Here is the latest scene file. It is not fully test, but it should fix the boundary issue with latest nightly (3.11.01 Nightly, Build ID: 2018070328372) . And a little instructions from Svetlin, I have done all those, just to let you know what steps they are. We are still working on it, fixing some issues.

- disable cutter
- remove the cylinder from the scene interaction exlude list (in general, we better not use that and use just non-solids, unless the exclude list is really necessary)
- change render mode to ocean mesh
- enable initial fillup + fillup for Ocean and set it to 99
- enable confine geometry and pick the cylinder there
- make the cylinder non-solid
- (the new addition to the nightly) - enable clear inside on the cylinder - the change I made was that if a geometry is used as confine geometry and has Clear Inside, then if you use fillup for ocean, the confine geometry will not be filled up with liquid initially
- make the cylinder a little wider, so the emitters could emit
the changes will be in tomorrow's nightly

[cb LLC]

Here is the latest scene file. It is not fully test, but it should fix the boundary issue with latest nightly (3.11.01 Nightly, Build ID: 2018070328372) . And a little instructions from Svetlin, I have done all those, just to let you know what steps they are. We are still working on it, fixing some issues.

- disable cutter
- remove the cylinder from the scene interaction exlude list (in general, we better not use that and use just non-solids, unless the exclude list is really necessary)
- change render mode to ocean mesh
- enable initial fillup + fillup for Ocean and set it to 99
- enable confine geometry and pick the cylinder there
- make the cylinder non-solid
- (the new addition to the nightly) - enable clear inside on the cylinder - the change I made was that if a geometry is used as confine geometry and has Clear Inside, then if you use fillup for ocean, the confine geometry will not be filled up with liquid initially
- make the cylinder a little wider, so the emitters could emit
the changes will be in tomorrow's nightly

Thank you ! It looks pretty good except there is still a sharp border where funnel begins. Seems like high ocean waves cause it

Also vortex itself now has thickness where in a real world it should be just a pit. I guess there is not way around it. I think Chaos should develop actual vortex force. it would help a lot

[flipbook]

Maybe you should start thinking outside the sim box *ba dum, tish*... just a thought... why not have a piece of non-renderable geo that follows the sim box edges ... volume select the ocean mesh with a soft selection applied and then an FFD or something and squash it down so it all generally flattens out.

Worth a try I suppose.. it may also be a load of rubbish

[cb LLC]

Maybe you should start thinking outside the sim box *ba dum, tish*... just a thought... why not have a piece of non-renderable geo that follows the sim box edges ... volume select the ocean mesh with a soft selection applied and then an FFD or something and squash it down so it all generally flattens out.

Worth a try I suppose.. it may also be a load of rubbish

Thanks But not sure how to do this. those borders are too sharp

[cb LLC]

I am trying to use 3ds max vortex force but it has no effect on phoenix. The grid is 50 meters by 50 And I am trying to make it look like in this video but it is not working at all. Is 3ds max vortex too weak? I think there is a bug with vortex and large volumes of liquid Thanks

sample https://youtu.be/rA_4LF9qNX8

[hammerbchen]

Hello,

Here I attached another scene file which use vortex force to create a maelstrom. Be sure to use latest nightly since there were some issues with standard 3dsmax forces (You might need to set your vortex strength a hundred or thousand times when using an older version of Phoenix, in order to see the effect). May I know what camera movement for your project? If it's not one single continuous shot, you can do it this way:

1. For long, wide range shot. Since you need the infinite ocean, use Vortex force set up

2. For close-up. Use the Funnel setup for more realistic and details. You can hide the horizon by using fog or compositing.


Those are methods I could think, we will continue to fix the boundary problem from the Funnel setup.


Hammer

[cb LLC]

Hello,

Here I attached another scene file which use vortex force to create a maelstrom. Be sure to use latest nightly since there were some issues with standard 3dsmax forces (You might need to set your vortex strength a hundred or thousand times when using an older version of Phoenix, in order to see the effect). May I know what camera movement for your project? If it's not one single continuous shot, you can do it this way:

1. For long, wide range shot. Since you need the infinite ocean, use Vortex force set up

2. For close-up. Use the Funnel setup for more realistic and details. You can hide the horizon by using fog or compositing.


Those are methods I could think, we will continue to fix the boundary problem from the Funnel setup.


Hammer

Thanks a lot it works! We will follow your advice for different camera angles. We even came out with another idea where sphere rotates a bit off center with a body force attracting and stiring the liquid but not really a vortex .

[hammerbchen]

I am glad it has resolved. Looking forward to see your final rendering