Dongles FAQ

[Da_elf]

maybe im not following you. were you saying that your allowed by law to have a program that you only bought 1 liscence for loaded on more than one system using the same liscence?

[Sawyer]

My only concern is I don't get updates when SBC is working on my lines and this happens without warning. It often is not a big deal but I could imagine a situation when my internet connection is down when that happens would I be unable to work? Also I have inadvertantly messed with a setting that has caused me a day off the net. I guess I won't do that as much.

[TutanMark]

@da_elf
Hi (long time)
I know that is only a temporary solution, but is important to know untill people receive the dongle.


Thanks Vladimir for your replies.

I believe that you were looking for a better solution to control piracy, so if you think that this could be a good solution it means that it is.

SO.. we have just to wait..

Regards,
Marco

[Da_elf]

as they said the internet server is not a full time thing. its only put in place to give you the ability to work while waiting for the dongle or work when getting a dongle replaced.

[Morbid Angel]

I have to agree with those who think the dongle is not good, imo its not a good idea as simply put it will cause a lot of head ache. Pay another 30 bucks? I think its not correct eather, but I guess it could be worse. And as suurland said, what if my dongle breaks, then I have to send it to chaos = which costs money, then they have to send one back, which costs money, meanwhile their server goes down, and we cant work at all...that could be a major blow in midst of production. As in 4 days of work lost, the studio can blame this on chaos and that would be bad ....very bad.
Plus, what is the dongle for? protect against piracy...sure, I use similar system called steam for valve games such as counter strike or half life 2, where you have an account which checks your serial number which is registered on their server, however this has been hacked and people known to be able to play these games with no need to connect to internet at all. So, one way or the other dongle wont provide antipiracy protection...plus when there are too many people logged on the server, it doesnt respond and does not allow me to connect which means I cannot use the game....think of that too....
I would say, rather keep the server system as is.

[TutanMark]

Sure!

[dapeter]

maybe im not following you. were you saying that your allowed by law to have a program that you only bought 1 liscence for loaded on more than one system using the same liscence?

Obviously you never read the actual user agreement - direct from Autodesk:

"Your Autodesk product may be installed and activated on one additional workstation, such as a home or remote workstation, provided that the workstations are not used concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of the license holder."

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...112&id=4793581

This is for all Autodesk software, so for instance there is no problem if your office gives you a computer to work on at home with a copy of the same license you use at work. Good for laptops and bringing work home, since you don't need to purchase an additional license.

[pshupe68]

I guess that is where I got the idea from. Thanks dapeter

Any Comments Dynedain? Da Elf?

Regards Peter.

[instinct]

Well you can perfectly do that with a dongle....take the dongle home...that´s a lot more reliable then working via VPN wich would be the second option...just as a side note from an "often at home worker because his girl would slap him if he wouldnt" :P

Regards,
Thorsten

[Da_elf]

i see. well. its how max does it. vray does it differently hard coding your liscence to 1 machine

[pshupe68]

instinct - yeah I could do that with a dongle but why would I want to? I have to remember to bring it home every night. If I attach it to my keys how long do you think it would last being beaten around all the time? If I don't attach it to something I will be leaving it at work or home probably 10% of the time. That may say more about my mental skills, but still a big hassle.

I'd still like to know what the cost of shipping from Bulgaria is?

Da Elf - shouldn't affect you at all - isn't your home / office / beach house one in the same place! lol

Ciao Peter.

[Da_elf]

exactly why i never took notice hehe. although next year ill be building my own home. and then ill have to go all the way from one floor of the house to the next to get to the office. damn i hate the communte to work. especially when i get stuck in trafic behind a cat stretched out in a spot of sunlight. they can take forever to move.

[instinct]

I still dont get your point...you can use it via VPN just the same as now...the licservermachine needs to have the dongle to run vrlserver...the rest is the same...so what is the problem besides the breaking dongles, the costs of shipping and the possibility of a server-crash...

I dont see where it really raises any additional risk...currently you have a licserver...the possibility of it going fubar is just the same as the fallback online server...and you have to mail chaos for a new lic-response too now...so it doesnt change too much besides having an additional usb piece on your licserver...if you dont wanna take it home ? dont...use it via vpn....if you live in a country with awfully bad internet connections you´d prolly hate vpn as much as i do :P

Regards,
Thorsten

[serge]

[quote="Morbid Angel"]I have to agree with those who think the dongle is not good, imo its not a good idea as simply put it will cause a lot of head ache. Pay another 30 bucks? I think its not correct eather, but I guess it could be worse. And as suurland said, what if my dongle breaks, then I have to send it to chaos = which costs money, then they have to send one back, which costs money, meanwhile their server goes down, and we cant work at all...that could be a major blow in midst of production. As in 4 days of work lost, the studio can blame this on chaos and that would be bad ....very bad.
quote]
agree with you
logics says the more ''variable'' you have the worst it can be
if for war against piraterorism we have to deal with such dangers
i'm not shure that i prefer to pay the extra for the ones wo use this software without paying it
I'love vray for what it is now never had one day without the ability to use it
hope that this new licensing system will not cause lost of work
that would cost me a lot more money than a vray license

[vlado]

I'd still like to know what the cost of shipping from Bulgaria is?

It is not necessary that the dongles are sent from Bulgaria as they may be supplied from a different location closer to you.

Further on, the online server is for temporary use only; normally you would use a donlge and will never have to worry about the online thing. The chances that a dongle fails are very small. In the unlikely event that both the dongle and your internet connection fail, we can still arrange a working build for you.

Best regards,
Vlado