Reversed Vray versus Corona rant

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

Hi guys,

its been kind of bubbling under the lid inside me for some time but i have to let it out as i thing Vray guys deserve to hear it.
I ve been working with Corona for some time now quite extensively because of clients compatibility and i have to say that VRAY ABSOLUTELY ROCKS over what Corona is capable of.

Corona just lacks so much stuff being it settings in triplanar, dirt, overrides and tweakability.
IPR is a lot better in Vray too.

Ive been always hearing how more advanced Corona is over Vray etc etc but i dont think so at all.

There are some nice bits here and there in it of course, but Vray is far far more superior and robust.

Thanks Chaosgroup for such a great tool!

Martin

[glorybound]

Great to hear! Sometimes I think I am a laggard, which is unlike me. I have tried Corona, but I wasn't seeing what the hype was all about, so I didn't stay with it. Now, V-Ray was a bear years ago but has gotten so much easier to use. It generated its own ecosystem with all the wild training videos, all trying to crack the V-Ray nut. I could watch 10 videos on the same topic and all 10 told you the correct way to use it, which were all different; it got crazy! I am sure the V-Ray guys will appreciate your comments.

[theedge]

Yep. No matter what people say about a product. The only way to make an opinion is to test the tool thouroughly on a real project.
I did that and stuck with V-Ray too. It's not better it just suits me best.

[Morbid Angel]

I think this is an infinite trend. For any renderer there will always be people who jump to it and love it. I've always stuck by vray since early 2000's. I've worked with many renderers and I don't see a need to switch from vray. For any number of features a given renderer will offer, there is a given number of lack of features in it also and it takes time to get those features implemented. Vray isn't ideling either so everything is always progressing and evolving.

[Muhammed_Hamed]

Thanks for sharing!
What version of Vray are you using? Have to be next update 1 with the new reworked IPR and lens effects?
Too bad the rant about Vray's IPR was few days before this update was out

[glorybound]

I am on the latest NEXT and a new fan of hybrid mode for my interiors. Lens Effect is much better and IPR mode is indispensable. The world of 100's of small region test renders is a past I'll gladly forget about.

[vinametal]

Corona is better. Sorry but is true, he is pure unbiased. Vray next only gpu to compare with corona, cpu mode is slower when compare with same quality. I m using vray to large scenes or animations, because to static archviz corona is far better. The light is solid, no area failing gi. Faster preview, LIGHTMIX!!! Its slower to final render but the quality is guaranteed. On vray we need to use raw light element to try enhance the paralell shadow and get some soft shadows. But if you want a nice rawlight you need to use portal and portal fuck the hdri direct light, so only using dome with adaptive to get faster and smooth hdri directs. its ironic. Vray is a old king. Dont fight against the evolution.

[busseynova]

Totally depends on what you're doing. For fully 3D scenes - especially interiors Corona has the edge. The simplicity allows you less time faffing and more time on the art direction of the image - scene setting and finding or modelling the perfect props to finish it off just so. For this reason I believe you see a lot more interiors guys doing some fantastic work with Corona. Where it falls down in some aspects of image compositing, which is an essential tool for complex archViz / verified view and photo-montage. Vray could probably do with a bit of a clear-out of some of the legacy stuff, but I'm sure people would complain.

[M.Max]

I Agree .V-Ray IS amazing now and Chaosgroup needs to show people how easy it is now to set up a scene and how powerful the engine is with features that other engine users can only dream of.
I wrote while back the top 30 features that V-ray has over Corona Here (t is old but it is still relevant I think )
Every time an engine add a new feature I see people going crazy and I'm like "Why! Vray had it for years! " but the marketing (it is now better) didn't show it properly before.
I would pay some famous artists to do some in-depth tutorials for real-world scenarios (check corona tutorial Youtube channel and Helpdesk website) IMO that's very important and should be in the top to-do-list.
speaking of features I can say everything made me jump to corona years ago-for Archviz project - is now available in Vray (except Light mixer :P ) so it is definitely not only some missing features in Vray that made corona famous this quickly in Archviz .it might be the price too as for people who only do these small apartments corona could be enough so they don't need to pay more (corona comes with 3 render nodes licenses ).
Sorry for this wall of text

[^Lele^]

but the marketing (it is now better) didn't show it properly before.

This will make the new(ish) and hard working marketing team very happy indeed.

[kosso_olli]

IPR is a lot better in Vray too.

Now thats a suprise. Most users say the opposite, but I have to say since the last update of Next, IPR is on par between V-Ray and Corona.

Corona is better. Sorry but is true, he is pure unbiased. Vray next only gpu to compare with corona, cpu mode is slower when compare with same quality. I m using vray to large scenes or animations, because to static archviz corona is far better. The light is solid, no area failing gi. Faster preview, LIGHTMIX!!! Its slower to final render but the quality is guaranteed. On vray we need to use raw light element to try enhance the paralell shadow and get some soft shadows. But if you want a nice rawlight you need to use portal and portal fuck the hdri direct light, so only using dome with adaptive to get faster and smooth hdri directs. its ironic. Vray is a old king. Dont fight against the evolution.

I am sorry, but it seems you are comparing a fairly old version of V-Ray to Corona.
I am using Next to render interiors (of cars, so even smaller openings for light to go through), and with the adaptive domelight the speed and quality were greatly improve. No need to use the ancient light portal trick. It is getting old to hear the Corona is better rant, when people compare it to outdated versions of V-Ray. Same for complexity: For a few versions now users do not have to touch any settings beside noise threshold. It can not be any simpler to render an image.

[glorybound]

Vlado made a comment the other week about Corona's monthly subscription and how it greatly decreases when a new crack comes out. I see hobbyist finding cracked copies and using it on 'personal project' and they might buy a month subscription once in a while when a new release comes out, but they stop the subscription when the newer crack comes out. Almost 95% of the Corona scenes I see are labeled 'personal project', which means they worked on it, in their spare time, for a long time. If I have more than a few days on a project I am lucky. I might be totally off here, but these are my assumptions. I would love to have a seal on my website stating that my software is legal. The seal would be linked to the developer's server, so it wouldn't just be an image. Maybe, when you click it, it'll bring you to the owner's license information. If you don't have the seal you are obviously not a legal user. This can be done for MAX, too.

[Nicinus]

I can say everything made me jump to corona years ago-for Archviz project - is now available in Vray (except Light mixer :P )

Do we know anything about the rumored Lightmix in Vray? Multiple render regions would be nice, but Lightmix is the one thing I really miss. A new VFB has been mentioned for years, is there a technical or priority issue that is blocking the development? Could we please get a status report?

[danio]

Do we know anything about the rumored Lightmix in Vray? Multiple render regions would be nice, but Lightmix is the one thing I really miss. A new VFB has been mentioned for years, is there a technical or priority issue that is blocking the development? Could we please get a status report?

+1 to this! Or just put it on the roadmap...heh heh....

[glorybound]

No GPU support is a deal breaker for me now, now that I am loving GPU rendering.