vray proxy and scatter

[percydaman]

anyone know of a way to scatter vray proxies without using the advanced painter script, where you can only scatter by actually painting the trees on? The script is awesome and all, but I need to create a forest of 50,000 trees, shrubs, bushes, grasses and such, and its just crazy to have to individually paint them onto the mesh.

[Dynedain]

The regular scatter tool doesn't do it?

[percydaman]

no you cant use vray proxies with the normal scatter, but I found one on maxplugins.de that does. its one Ive used before, but forgot about.

[Dynedain]

Isn't there a scatter in the blur scriptpack as well?

[percydaman]

ya but its called simplescatter, and for a good reason.

Peter Watje's scatter utility is working great. Other then not letting me specify a name for the scattered objects before scattering has commenced without crashing max. Its a small thing though.

[TRGraphics]

50,000 trees? What on earth are you rendering, Yellowstone Nat'l Park. hehe

[percydaman]

lol cmon, yellowstone has at least tens of millions of trees... this site s .6 mile by about .3 mile in size, heavily forested.

[jacksc02]

Percy,
your crazy.
You could always array your proxies and then use the Blurscript "random transform" to vary the scale and rotation of the proxies

[percydaman]

not a bad idea. ive been doing the scaling and rotation using that blur script.

[jacksc02]

would love to see the results when you get done!

[percydaman]

sure thing. Heres a VERY prelim rendertest straight out of max, no AA.



obviously theres still ALOT of trees needed.

[jacksc02]

nice, whats the rendertimes like?

[percydaman]

i think that was about a few minutes. the issue is the AA. right now Im working at fixed rate 2 at about 20 mins. 3 will probably be all I can afford for rendertime.

Man I wish Vlado would implement material specific GI and AA settings...

[jacksc02]

any luck with adaptive AA??

[DaForce]

Percy, trees look quite good

With proxies can you only Instance them right... like you cant copy them can you?

If i have say a glass cup that has been proxied, and i want to add say 35 other glass cups to the scene, I can only instance the original hey.
i realise there is no advantage in copying but when i tried it the proxy bounding box went HUGE.