V-Ray wizzard - request for contribution

[RErender]

More than a wizard that simply steps through the various dialogs I would like to see more of a "smart scene analyzer". Something that analyzes a scene and optimizes render settings.

For example:

Choosing the best AA method considering the number of glossy effects, geometry complexity, reflection/refraction etc.

optimizing the Raycaster and render region for optimal memory usage

It could set subdivisions per object considering its pixel importance in a scene.

Optimize methods, thresholds and subs for GI depending on the makeup of the scene.

V-AI-Ray

Hmm probably some more but that's it for now

[gangle]

.....if your clients know there is a "magic button" for descent quality renderings, your overall value to them will drop as well as more people start using vray.....

Clients don't care about 'magic buttons'!! They care about on-time results and their own clients. Clients are busy people too.

If a client has the size and in-house resources to create images, then those resources will be exclusively tied up by the client's upper echelon projects, effectively removing them as competition.

Wanting to limit Vray evolution is dangerous thinking and hopefully not a Chaos Group consideration.

Do the funky Wikki Wizard! Do it now!

What happened to 1.5?

[vlado]

What happened to 1.5?

Comming... like the train in the tunnel

Best regards,
Vlado

[flino2004]

About the Tricky opinion...he is right about the learning process, it is an asset in some way....but the rendering is more that just good settings, it's composition, modeling, materials, etc....but the most important for me is the quality in general with a good service and support.
VRay users like to work with Vray on top of the good quality engine for the support from Chaos....I'm a finalRender user and I don't use it now because their support is very poor combine with big egos.

there are other problems agains the freelancers like off-shore in China or in India for example. the prices are 1/6 of the USA fees and the quality is pretty good.

We are working in one project and making the physical model in USA cost $110,000 ....in China 36,000....they work faster(3X) and excellent quality with more than 20 people working on that for 24hr & shipping about 10,000

[kpavlov]

To Vlado.

Thats the longest tunnel I have seen in my life.

[vlado]

To Vlado.

Thats the longest tunnel I have seen in my life.

<shrug> I wish myself it was shorter.

Best regards,
Vlado

[gangle]

<<<

To Vlado.

Thats the longest tunnel I have seen in my life.

>>>

Wait till you see the train!!

As far as China goes, competition doesn't seem likely if they are all 300 lb gorrillas!

...and what's with this Chinese dude that plays for the Houston Rockets, Yao Ming? He's 7'5" or 2.29m tall and a trim 300lbs or 136kg! Are they all like that?

[arobbert]

I doubt that this wizard will be an automatic great rendering button.

It's silly to even talk about trying to stop the forward motion of evolution. What we are really talking about is fear and uncertainty. If we reduce ourselves to masters of software we do our selves a great injustice. If that's how we present ourselves to our customers they will never value us. What we offer is our creative and artistic ability. The challenge has always been to find people that will value and pay you for that.

Ever since we started using computers to create our work people were afraid that new developments in technology would put us out of work. It hasn't happened in the 15 years I've been at this. As technology improves we will always be that much further ahead of the novice user or non creative person.

There are many factors that go into producing good work other than buying Vray and MAX. If we want to continue to be useful as technology improves we must always raise the bar for our selves to stay on top. Every improvement in technology will present new challenges. There never will be a creativity button.

The real threats to our livelihood are sour economic conditions and competition from "third world countries" (for lack of a better term). This is a very real threat for us in the USA. It's difficult to compete against others that don't enjoy the same standard of living as you. Especially if they are talented. This is much more of a threat to me.

[paulison]

too many long posts here, so:

rerenders "auto scene adjustment" concept is good. I think it can be extended to lighting... Place lights in the scene and hit the "autoshithot" button to balance brightness and contrast. most of us probably wouldnt use this feature though.

I can see all of these auto features getting people only 50% of the way there who are inexperienced. Learning the other 50% gets exponentially harder as you get closer to 100% so I think this is where the skill lies that cant be replaced with an "auto" button.

If the wizard at least makes it easy to produce above average images I think chaos will get a lot more customers, so it could be a great thing to implement from their perspective.

Again, id look at how lightscape worked. The wizards and tools were a good starting point for people who want to produce images of an acceptable quality

[gafl]

Hi all
It is just a very beginning in the script so don't laugh or criticize it too much...
I just did it in a few minutes in order to start something.

There is no study yet, just a idea laucher from wich I could work.
It's a very basic outside illumination, very simple but already shows
some problems to think about.
There is a sun, a dome light, an infinite Plane and no GI.
I didn't find how to write in script the VrayShadow in the sun Parameters
in order to get smooth shadows, sorry.I didn't have time to solve it.
The smooth shadow must be activated manually (or by hand)

Here is the short script:


------------------------------------------------------------
--------------- Ouverture du programme---------
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--Data de Départ-----------------------------------------
set coordsys #world
Global Win1
Global WindowRoll
Global Ground
Global Sun
Global Dome

--dialogue box-------------------------
Rollout Win1 "Outside Illumination"
(
CheckBox SimpleVray "Simple illumination. No GI?"pos:[10,10]



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------C R E A T I O N Biginning---------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
button Start "Start" width:125 height:20 pos:[45,275]
on Start pressed do
(
undo off
(

if SimpleVray.checked==true then
(Ground=VRayPlane pos:[0,0,0] isSelectedn
Sun=IES_Sun transformmatrix3 [1,0,0] [0,0,1] [0,-1,0] [-1000,-3.49691e-005,800]) multiplier:1000 rgb:[255,235,205] castShadowsn isSelectedn targetTargetobject transformmatrix3 [1,0,0] [0,1,0] [0,0,1] [0,0,0]))
MessageBox "Use VrayShadow in the sun parameters"
Dome=VRayLight invisiblen multiplier:0.6 smoothSurfaceShadowsn type:1 color:[200,225,250] pos:[0,0,50]
backgroundColor = color 200 225 250;
)----Fin if SimpleVray




)----Fin undo off
)----Fin Bouton Start










)------------F I N Win1 rollout-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
----Creation du rollout
WindowRoll = newrolloutfloater "LIGHT Vray Wizzard" 245 400
addrollout Win1 WindowRoll

[joconnell]

Fair play - Good to get something started at least

[zoranm]

I must admit that I'm not a big fan of wizards. Most of the time they are just bloated with un-necessary options (look no further than Nero: latest version is more than 200 Mb and for what? To burn a cd/dvd?)

I'd rather see some improvemants in the actual interface. For me it'd be a HUGE time saver if I could, for example, detach Vray pannels and store them to the second monitor.Or if I can colour coded them...etc.

Would it be possible to have this wizard as an option so it doesn't load every time if I don't like it?

Regards

Zoran