Intel Quad Core

[natty]

Hi jaggos

we are using server 2003 64bit.. all working fine.

Natty

[jaggos]

Hi Natty
thanks for the quick reply.
I was think of using XP 64bit, cause i'll have only two machines and a laptop. and the laptop's got XPhome edition. what would be the benefits of 2003 server for me?

cheers

[natty]

Hi Natty
thanks for the quick reply.
I was think of using XP 64bit, cause i'll have only two machines and a laptop. and the laptop's got XPhome edition. what would be the benefits of 2003 server for me?

cheers

Hi
There would be no benifit for you to use 2003srv.. xp64 will do you fine, the only reason i bought 2003srv is because we have 40 machines connecting to this machine as a file server..

Natty

[jaggos]

[/quote]

Hi
There would be no benifit for you to use 2003srv.. xp64 will do you fine, the only reason i bought 2003srv is because we have 40 machines connecting to this machine as a file server..

Natty[/quote]

Thanks Natty

[TutanMark]

ntec TX1088AMG Metallic grey SOHO file server case 480W

Good to hear that ... dual xeons machines needed 600W power supply...

[joconnell]

Just got in a dell xps 710 (purely cos I needed it quick) and the quad core qx6700 thingie - working very well so far although I don't really like dell machines with their proprietary setups...

[RErender]

I almost bought one this weekend Fry's here had q6600 for $848 and with a choice of free EVGA 680i, Abit AW9D_Max or a Asus p5B Deluxe. All cheaper than the cpu alone online... I really should have grabbed one

[n6]

ntec TX1088AMG Metallic grey SOHO file server case 480W

Good to hear that ... dual xeons machines needed 600W power supply...

A 600W PSU means... nothing ...
What you need with dual Xeon system is a very strong output on a single 12V rail.

Most of PSUs have splited 12V rail, enven if they are 1500W PSUs...they only have 15 or 20A on the 12V rail.

What you need for a stable dual Xeon station is at least 30-40A on a single 12V rail, maybe less if you don't plans any overclocking...

Remember that (W) doesnt means anything, its only a "marketing unit".

[neoVisual]

Most contemporary PSUs handle high load demand on 12V line, but if we are talking about Quadcore, 500W+ PSU is strongly recommended. QX6700 alone draws about 220W of power under full load (Vray rendering, of course ). If you add other components such as motherboard, chipset, memory and harddrive array requirements, you can go up to 350W of power. And we are not talking about GPU yet.

Contemporary GPUs can eat another 60-100W of power depending on your choice. And you don't want to run your poor PSU under 80-90 percent load all the time, right ?

[flipside]

Mmmm I just ordered a dual quad core system and they included a 600W PSU (ATX power supply [4-pin (+12V), 8-pin (+12V) and 24-pin]). So would this be way two low considering there are already 2 quad cores?

[neoVisual]

If you've ordered dual Quadcores, it will be either 1,8GHz or 2GHz Quadcore version that has much smaller power consumption than 2,66GHz QX6700 beast. Don't worry, quadcores for dual socket are made to fit power and thermal envelope of server environments. So in most cases 600W power supply wil be enough.
By the way, Intel 2 way boards does't support SLI, so you can add only one power hungry GPU to this system.

neoVISUAL

[priad]

Have you ear something about the new AMD ? They have said 40% more fast than the intel quad.
I'm also in this case, when you must buy news computers.

[n6]

Most contemporary PSUs handle high load demand on 12V line, but if we are talking about Quadcore, 500W+ PSU is strongly recommended. QX6700 alone draws about 220W of power under full load (Vray rendering, of course ).

... 500W is the total power... What you dont anderstand is that the rail that is powering your Xeons has nothing to do with your "500W".

Some 700W PSU would do only 15A on one 12V rail while some others 480W would provide 35A. The first is a big sh... the second one IS the one to choose.

[neoVisual]

N6: I don't want to go in some type of flame, we both understand that load on 12V rail was (maybe sometimes still is) crucial in older Xeon systems (including socket A AMD dual systems) and in past there was a problem to get right power supply for the money.

But now what you'll have to observe more carefully is total system power consumption. Unless you are going to buy some crappy megawatt "SLI compatible" PSU with neon lights and shiny blue coating, you'll get almost very good characteristics, ATX 2.03 specification, SSI connectors and separate 12V power rails for CPUs and other stuff. And it will be more than sufficient for all dual or quad systems.

Talking about Xeons, what is Xeon then ? Old Noconas, newer Dempsey cores, Clovertons ? Is Kentsfield based QX6700 more Xeon than old Dempsey "Xeon" ?

peace
neoVISUAL

Priad: New AMDs (Barcelona core) will launch probably in second part of 2007, so nobody knows about performance now. If you exclude AMD marketing stuff

[TutanMark]

Most of PSUs have splited 12V rail, enven if they are 1500W PSUs...they only have 15 or 20A on the 12V rail.

What you need for a stable dual Xeon station is at least 30-40A on a single 12V rail, maybe less if you don't plans any overclocking...

Remember that (W) doesnt means anything, its only a "marketing unit".

Thanks for information... i will hold in mind next time.