ice material...

[lukx]

Anyone got any tips for creating thsi kind of icy material:


Above reference is 3D rendered in maxwell

I was thinking VrayBlend with less transparent ice as base and high reflective and refractive coat but it's still not that nice as maxwell material

Should I use translucency ?

[simmsimaging]

That's a render? Very impressive material and model to get that slushy ice looking that good. Got a link for where you found that shot?

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[simmsimaging]

forgot: you can do that with glossy refractions but sharp reflections in a VrayMat. You shouldn't need a blend material. To get that really soft look inside the ice you can probably use interpolation to smooth things out. It won't have SSS but doubt you need it for that.

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[lukx]

guy for me is GOD regarding product rendering... but he is using maxwell http://www.bsmart.se/redbull/

[simmsimaging]

Wow - fanastic work over there. Thanks for the link.

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[dmf-123]

Wowsers, that's the guy to beat.

I guess Red Bull does give you wings.

[rivoli]

impressive pieces of work over there.. I imagine the mat as being very simple, and the difference is probably made by the ice geometry and the lighting (what it reflects/refracts and so on). both seem to be totally spot on in the reference image.

[lukx]

This is what I got:


I used translucency because I don;t see other way to get this milky, less transparent inside when getting deeper into the ice.

[rivoli]

another thing that might help in getting more realistic are caustics, which I guess were on in the maxwell reference. your image looks already very good though..

[Jiri.Matys]

Did you use fastsss2 ?

[lukx]

no, standard translucency in vraymat (hybrid model)

[simmsimaging]

Looks pretty good! How far did you push the refraction glossiness? I think you can get that depth in the ice with more glossy refractions. It will help the translucency too IMO.

Caustics would be good, but I'm not having much luck getting good caustics on such small refined shapes.

[joconnell]

Wow - looks great Lukx. Really nicely done.

[davision]

I'm no expert on ice, but wouldn't messing with the vray mat'l fog setting help you get that milky look? (Your own render already does look pretty good though.)

[simmsimaging]

Tests I did with just glossiness, no translucency used: