V-Ray 3.0 for 3ds Max Beta Open!

[3DKodo]

Hi i've instelled now this beta version, with "uninstall previus version" disabled.
But in Max there isn't the possibility to choose vray 2.40.04 or vray 3.05.01.......there is only vray 3.05.01!!

There is the possibility to run both version in the same computer?
I've read this thread but i haven't see this question!

[Streetwise]

My licensing server is still running 32-bit. So may I still run the dongle under 2.4, and run 3.0 on the workstation and nodes? Or do I need to upgrade the OS on the licensing server.

Thanks

[Christophe.Cot]

In my mind it is kinda silly to NEGLECT customers that have been loyal and using the product for YEARS. I mean loyal customers only get 1 render node, whereas NEW customers get 3!

Is it just me or does that sound a bit crazy?!?

I understand your point and I can assure you we value very much all our users.

Referring to the new licensing, we do propose upgrade from V-Ray 2.0 to V-Ray 3.0 in 3 flavors -> GUI + 1 Render Node, GUI + 6 Render Nodes and GUI + 11 Render Nodes with pricing range from 300EUR (i.e. even 25% or 100EUR less than 1.5 to 2.0 upgrade) until 700EUR including full upgrade of for both GUI and Render Nodes.
If you compare that with a brand new 3.0 licenses, we will see huge savings here and this is obviously only available to current users as it is about upgrades.

We even did not forget our users still using V-Ray 1.5 - which we have been supporting for free for almost 10 years - as we do also propose an upgrade plan from 1.5 to 3.0. Not many companies offer the possibility to upgrade your software from X-2 version to X version but Chaos Group does with V-Ray 3.0, and again if you compare you can see huge potential savings.

If you feel anything is unclear about our new policy, feel free to ask.

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Full 32 bit EXR Uncompressed(or ZIP/zips)format. Ture 32 bit plz not cut down 16.

[vlado]

EXR is more compatible with other software, so that would be best.

Best regards,
Vlado

[askhamdesign]

Yep, I agree. Hopefully Simon will get to do proper 32-bit ones.

Best regards,
Vlado

What file formats would you recommend to save from max and then to post online for this? exr or vrimg?

[Morne]

In my mind it is kinda silly to NEGLECT customers that have been loyal and using the product for YEARS. I mean loyal customers only get 1 render node, whereas NEW customers get 3!

Is it just me or does that sound a bit crazy?!?

[Mokiki]

Thanks for the clarification Vlado. Can't wait for the current project to be finished so I can take the beta for a spin too.

[Christophe.Cot]

Wow. This is pretty crazy! I do struggle to think why anyone would want to upgrade now!

Let me just clarify that the standard upgrade will be available only once we release the final product.
Therefore "now" is only available the V-Ray 2.0 for 3dsMax license (granting the free upgrade to V-Ray 3.0)
Once V-Ray 3.0 for 3dsMax will be released, the upgrade (2.0 -> 3.0 or 1.5 -> 3.0) will then be available and only the 2.0 version will not be proposed anymore.

I will definitely buy a new 2.4 licence in this case (for the free ugprade path)

Perfect ! Keep in mind though that this offer is limited in time (until we release V-Ray 3.0) so hurry up.

But a new Vray 3.0 with the 3 render nodes sounds ace. Great!

Glad to hear that

[vlado]

Thanks for those render tests @ askhamdesign. But I'm confused wasn't the render speed increase supposed to be brute force only? So why the big increase with using IR as primary solution? (Not that I'm complain)

The changes affect other situations too, not only and specifically brute force - although they are indeed more apparent if you use brute force, especially with lots of bounces.

Best regards,
Vlado

[Mokiki]

Thanks for those render tests @ askhamdesign. But I'm confused wasn't the render speed increase supposed to be brute force only? So why the big increase with using IR as primary solution? (Not that I'm complain)

[michaelwbell]

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the reply!

RE: Purchasing a new Vray 3.0 instead of upgrading an exsisting 2.4:

Hi Michael,

For us this is not a problem at all - again we are not here to force to do anything, we choose what's best in your situation.

Here I feel you (wrongly) assume that the compatibility would be 100%... If you use V-Ray 3.0 to create a scene and try to use V-Ray 2.0 to render it (assuming it is really possible), you might face some serious compatibility issue.
The opposite is more likely to supported. And you are right to mention that the base cost of a new V-Ray license is going to be cheaper
Ultimately every user have different situations and concerns. If in your case the option to buy V-Ray now and receive the free upgrade to V-Ray 3.0 with 3x RN sounds a better deal, then we would be more than happy to help you in this process.

Wow. This is pretty crazy! I do struggle to think why anyone would want to upgrade now! I will definitely buy a new 2.4 licence in this case (for the free ugprade path). The current 2.4 -> 3.0 upgrade is a definite 'downgrade'.

But a new Vray 3.0 with the 3 render nodes sounds ace. Great!

[kosso_olli]

Thanks for the clarification, Vlado. Seems to be easy to clear up the noise, then.

[vlado]

Sorry for the dumb question: Using the new shading rate parameter or via min and max settings?

If it's not a glossy material, the shading rate will not affect it. You can modify the min/max subdivs (and maybe the color threshold, I don't know what it is set to in the scene). Basically in the same way you would normally deal with noise in V-Ray.

Best regards,
Vlado

[kosso_olli]

Increase the AA settings a bit. That's all.

Sorry for the dumb question: Using the new shading rate parameter or via min and max settings?