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    I have always avoided adding my skies in post. I have tried everything, but I get that awful fringing of trees. There has to be a way to avoid this. I use Photoshop... Any clues?
    Bobby Parker
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  • #2
    Render with a black background and use layer > 'remove black matte' instead of defringe.
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    • #3
      or untick sky visibility in vray light and render to exr. Alfa in the channel tab will do the trick.
      Best Regards

      Tomek

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      • #4
        That's what I do, but I still get the fringe
        Originally posted by urbanite View Post
        or untick sky visibility in vray light and render to exr. Alfa in the channel tab will do the trick.
        Bobby Parker
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        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
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        • #5
          I think I tried this, but I'll try again.
          Originally posted by Pixelcon View Post
          Render with a black background and use layer > 'remove black matte' instead of defringe.
          Bobby Parker
          www.bobby-parker.com
          e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
          phone: 2188206812

          My current hardware setup:
          • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
          • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
          • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
          • ​Windows 11 Pro

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          • #6
            Originally posted by glorybound View Post
            That's what I do, but I still get the fringe
            Strange. Anti-aliased alfa should give you clean cut. How doe
            Best Regards

            Tomek

            Portfolio: http://dtown.pl/

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            • #7
              The Fringing defect will always appear regardless of the background color.
              It is true that if the render is done on pure black background color the fringing is not so noticeable but it is still there.

              This is because the output image is saved with pre-multiplied alpha, which means that every pixel which is anti-aliased with the background has some contribution from its color and this color becomes an issue when the image is mixed with another image.

              There are two solutions here:

              1.render to deep EXR - this of course will require compositing software that supports deep images which I believe is not the case with Photoshop.
              2.render to TGA file with disabled Pre-Multiplied Alpha over black background - please note that you have to save the output image directly to the HDD via 3DSMax Render Output functionality, if you save it from the Max/V-Ray frame buffer the alpha will be always pre-multiplied. This method is not as good as the first one since the defect will be still visible but the result should be much better than files with pre-multiplied alpha.
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              • #8
                Another solution is to take your PSD with the sky comped in (with the fringing), turn off the render layer(s) so you're just seeing the background (sky etc.), then save this out as a fresh background map (in screen projection mode) for your render. Essentially you're going to then be rendering directly onto what your finished comp will look like, so the pixels around your trees and scene will be more or less the same as in the PSD.

                You can also quickly select your alpha for the background and feather it by 1 or 2 pixels and expand the matte. This will often do the trick.
                Alex York
                Founder of Atelier York - Bespoke Architectural Visualisation
                www.atelieryork.co.uk

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                • #9
                  Try this:

                  http://forums.chaosgroup.com/showthr...-Photoshop-Sky

                  z.

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                  • #10
                    just links back to this thread

                    Originally posted by zoranm View Post
                    Bobby Parker
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                    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                    phone: 2188206812

                    My current hardware setup:
                    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Oops, sorry, my bad

                      Link: http://www.digitalartform.com/archiv...iting_pre.html

                      Z.

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                      • #12
                        I'll check it out, thanks!
                        Bobby Parker
                        www.bobby-parker.com
                        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                        phone: 2188206812

                        My current hardware setup:
                        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                        • #13
                          If you read the article it states at the bottom:

                          "UPDATE 3/23/2009:

                          So... LAYER > MATTING > REMOVE BLACK/WHITE MATTE is the official way to go."
                          James Burrell www.objektiv-j.com
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