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  • Would you recommend to use Max 2017?

    I am contemplating switching as soon as Itoo has updated their tools.

    Has anybody tried the Nested Layer Manager with Max 2017? That is one tool I could not live without, besides V-Ray and Itoo

  • #2
    I've hear rumors that 2016 apparently is much better and people joking about only getting the "even" releases. But I have not tried anything beyond 2014.
    Software:
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
    3ds Max 2016 SP4
    V-Ray Adv 3.60.04


    Hardware:
    Intel Core i7-4930K @ 3.40 GHz
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (4096MB RAM)
    64GB RAM


    DxDiag

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    • #3
      Havent made the switch yet, but ForestPro and Railclone are out for Max 2017. Still waiting for VrayPattern though...

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      • #4
        I'm on my first 100% MAX 2017 job. So far, other than the UI, I'm not seeing any difference from 2016. I do like the UI, since I have a 4K screen, it is a must. Things seem to be just as laggy in 2017, as in 2016, which was disappointing. I have found all my plugins to be 2017 compatible, which is awesome.
        Bobby Parker
        www.bobby-parker.com
        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
        phone: 2188206812

        My current hardware setup:
        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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        • #5
          hiho!

          THX Glorybound for that info!
          "I do like the UI, since I have a 4K screen" thats a 100% reason for me to go 2017..

          The scaling of the UI in 2016 is so supercrap that it hurts (well the only reason for this is Win10 with its super inconsistent interface and stupid "works on all devices" approach )
          Since Forestpack and Vray are 2017 ready its no reason to wait

          Maybe this one breaks "the uneven releasenumber curse" of 3dsmax.

          seeya, daniel
          Last edited by krassi; 16-06-2016, 08:25 AM.
          Daniel Krassnig / http://www.vistral-3d-visualisierung.de/ / Architektur Visualisierungen

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          • #6
            I thought I had all my plugins, but each time I opened a project I found new plugin I was missing. Each one that popped up, I was able to find it in 2017.
            Bobby Parker
            www.bobby-parker.com
            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
            phone: 2188206812

            My current hardware setup:
            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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            • #7
              annoying bug in 2017 sp1, i have a app crash when i try to open a file in a third open max session...(with sp0, crash was on the 2nd open max session...so i guess it's getting better no? )

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              • #8
                for me the comma error is the show stopper defo
                Martin
                http://www.pixelbox.cz

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PIXELBOX_SRO View Post
                  for me the comma error is the show stopper defo
                  Can you elaborate? You mean inputting floating point numbers? IN the US we do 3.14159 Does that work?

                  I have not installed 2017 yet. I think most plugins are there now, but we are booked in production through Sept. So I will likely wait until then.

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                  • #10
                    I think it is a metric thing. Like you wrote, we use a period, but they use a comma. I am 3 project into MAX 2017 and all is okay. It is taking some time to get used to the UI, but at least now I can see the icons. I am still having sudden "poof" crashes, very slow to open things like the render dialog and material browser. I still have things missing from all layers and I have not been able to use any viewport setting other than Clay. If I go to shaded, everything gets checker boarded.
                    Bobby Parker
                    www.bobby-parker.com
                    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                    phone: 2188206812

                    My current hardware setup:
                    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the reply, Bobby. It does sound like perhaps not ready for prime time yet. Maybe I will wait for the service pack.

                      For us it is really the production schedule (once all plugins are available) that dictates when we upgrade.

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                      • #12
                        I don't think waiting would matter. If that were the case, 2016 isn't ready for prime-time either.
                        Bobby Parker
                        www.bobby-parker.com
                        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                        phone: 2188206812

                        My current hardware setup:
                        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                        • #13
                          I have kind of kidnapped this thread. I just didn't want to start another 2017 thread. I was just about to give up on MAX. I have spent 3 hours trying to save a model. I decided to try and merge my 2016 model, instead of opening and converting, and now everything seems to be working smoothly. Also, Scene Explorer is working right and it never did on 2016. A working Scene Explorer and UI for 4K.... I am happy!

                          The select element by material utility seems to be broken
                          Still crashing 4-5 times a day
                          It takes 30+ seconds to open the render dialog, material editor, and customize.
                          Last edited by glorybound; 17-06-2016, 05:08 PM.
                          Bobby Parker
                          www.bobby-parker.com
                          e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                          phone: 2188206812

                          My current hardware setup:
                          • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                          • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                          • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                          • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by glorybound View Post
                            The select element by material utility seems to be broken
                            Still crashing 4-5 times a day
                            It takes 30+ seconds to open the render dialog, material editor, and customize.
                            have you tried tweaking your windows settings to see if that makes any difference. all the windows you describe open almost instantly on my system. was it like that with just the vanilla install of Max with no plugins+scripts.

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                            • #15
                              It is scene dependent. New scenes seem to be fine. I think once a scene gets larger, MAX chokes.

                              Originally posted by Companioncube View Post
                              have you tried tweaking your windows settings to see if that makes any difference. all the windows you describe open almost instantly on my system. was it like that with just the vanilla install of Max with no plugins+scripts.
                              Bobby Parker
                              www.bobby-parker.com
                              e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                              phone: 2188206812

                              My current hardware setup:
                              • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                              • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                              • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                              • ​Windows 11 Pro

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