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    i am thinking of buying my first small vray renderfarm and got these 2 offers:

    No. 1 (10 boxes)
    • PC Midi Tower 313F black/silver
      4x5.25, 2x3.5, 350W, P4, Fr. USB, C.Handle

      INTEL La Crosse D865 GLCLK S478 I865G MATX
      FSB800/533/400, VGA, Audio, USB2.0, GB-LAN

      INTEL PENTIUM 4E Prescott 2.8GHZ SKT
      FSB800 Prescott 1MB CACHE In-A-Box

      2x512MB DDR-RAM PC400 non ECC Samsung
      DDR3200, CL2.5

      SAMSUNG 40GB EIDE
      UATA100/133, 7200rpm, 2MB Cache

      total: 5900 € + tax


    No. 2 (5 boxes)
    • 2xINTEL Xeon 2.8GHz Box 533FSB 512KB

      INTEL E7501 Dual XEON Server MB
      Dual GB-NIC, VGA, 4xDIMM DDR266

      2x512MB ValueRAM DDR PC266 ECC TRS

      SAMSUNG 40GB EIDE
      UATA100/133, 7200rpm, 2MB Cache

      CHIEFTEC MIDI CS-601 Black
      PSU ATX HEC-460W
      BB/PFC/IOSW/230V only

      total: 6800 € + tax


    all boxes will be running xp home...

    i'd now like to know what you peepz think about price & hardware and what i should consider...

    ecc or not ecc?
    64bit future?
    dual or not dual?
    chache sizes?
    maybe amd?

    hope to get some know-how from this great forum...
    pinpan71

  • #2
    Mhz for Mhz your xeons will outpace the p4s
    Digital Progression

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    • #3
      You'll need XP Professional for the Xeon boxes. XP Home doesn't support multiprocessors.

      David
      www.dpict3d.com - "That's a very nice rendering, Dave. I think you've improved a great deal." - HAL9000... At least I have one fan.

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      • #4
        Dont get XEONS for renderfarm, is not cost effective.

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        • #5
          So what decision did you make for your render farm?

          I am looking into various options for a render farm at the moment.

          Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

          Thankyou
          Tony MacDonald
          Tony MacDonald
          Arterra Interactive

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          • #6
            we will possibly go for a rack of 3.0 or 3.2 P4's with 2Gb dual ddr ram. Mostly just going intel because for us its tried and tested reliability

            fairly cheap now, especially if you dont get them in fancy rack mounted cases

            I dont know what most people do, but I think now that Dual Xeon as the main working machine anc cheaper P4's for the farm is a good option....I dont have much experience with distributed rendering though so maybee this is a really bad idea? decisions decisions!

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            • #7
              paulison - we have been slowly building our render farm for the last 2 years or so, and the best option is to spend more money on your workstations (because you can works faster and it nicer to work on a fast machine). Then with your render boxes, buy some p4 (ht) computers with the bare minimum and no extras (ie no video or sound card). This is a cheaper option and then you can buy more render boxes over time.

              If you have any questions just email me I am more than happy to answer any questions.

              Chris Jackson
              cj@arcad.co.nz
              www.arcad.co.nz
              Chris Jackson
              Shiftmedia
              www.shiftmedia.sydney

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              • #8
                Chris,

                you guys run a series of p4's with ht?

                have you encountered any major problems with max and Vray?

                Ive just been quoted a IBM render rack system which is right out of my budget. Buying a series of p4's is financially a better option for me. my only concern is the reliability of this type of setup.

                Im also weighing up buying dual xeon hp pc's against clone pc's?

                Cheer
                Tony
                Tony MacDonald
                Arterra Interactive

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                • #9
                  Your best advantage for getting a rack and not a series of workstations is not price, it is space and maintenance. If you plan on buying more than 15 computer, you will be happier with a rack. 15 computers takes up a lot of space and is really loud. While a rack is load, it aint as loud as 15 computer in one room. Plus you can put it in a closet easier then 15 computers. Just make sure that your closet has a LOT of airflow.

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                  • #10
                    Tony- yeah we havent encountered any problems with the HT p4's I have read about other people having problem but I have had none!

                    If youhavent got the budget for a rack mounted system, go with the p4's. As for the clone vs. HP thing go with clones, you can get more bang for your buck.

                    example- my new workstation is a dual 3.2 xeon 4gig ram 256mb video card and so on, for a HP wx8000 with the same specs it was going to cost about NZ15k, for a clone it was NZ10k

                    On the downside the HP support is fantastic, but if you have a good local computer store they should be just as good.

                    Tony- just out of interest how much was the IBM rack system?

                    Chris Jackson
                    cj@arcad.co.nz
                    www.arcad.co.nz
                    Chris Jackson
                    Shiftmedia
                    www.shiftmedia.sydney

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                    • #11
                      Yeah I know exactly what you mean. We purchased a dual xeon 2.8, 2.5 gig of ram, 128mb nvidia 980xl about 2 years ago and cost about 7kAU, i purchased a clone (xeon) a few months later of simliar specs for 4kAU. The major difference that I found was the over heating of my clone pc. when i started rendering my clone box starts heating up, (the box actually gets hot) it is also very noisey. My HP is silent and has a better cooling stystem within the case. Maybe I just need a better case?

                      The IBM rack system started at 25k and worked its way up from there. for 25k it didnt even get me much rendering power. They try to sell them on their reliability, monitoring, adaptability and also the fact that animal logic and weta use them. Its out of my budget for now but maybe in the future if i get alot of animation work and the fees to go with it.

                      They are sending me some quotations for various options including the rack system, if your interested i can pass on the prices for you.

                      Its good to see 3d work in NZ is happening. Ive been in Sydney for about 6 years producing 3d renderings for Architectural/ Landscape environements using max, electric image and archicad. There is alot of work here and is picking up everyday. We have done a litle bit of work in Auckland but not much. I was working in Auckland previously for 5 years trying to do as much 3d work as i could. Back then if you could produce anysort of 3dmodel you were a legend now its a completely different story.

                      Thanks
                      Tony
                      Tony MacDonald
                      Arterra Interactive

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