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  • V-Ray NEXT Interiors

    Has anybody used V-Ray Next for an interior yet? I haven't been able to get one to render without extreme render times. An interior that was rendering with 3.6 was taking a couple hours and now, 7+ hours and still noisy. I started another interior today, which is really rather simple, and I am experiencing the same insane render times. I am zipping them up now and I will post, but I just wanted to see if it is just an issue here or if others are experiencing higher render times, too.

    https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/...6-e235c0414cc3
    Last edited by glorybound; 07-06-2018, 03:54 PM.
    Bobby Parker
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  • #2
    I brought it over to another fine Chaos Group software, Corona. After the conversion and the initial render my walls had something strange going on, so I swapped it out with a Corona wall material, which corrected that issue. I let Corona run for about 1 1/2 hours and it is pretty clean; another 1/2 an hour and it would be good. I am not sure what Corona is doing that VRay Next is chocking on, but it is doing the job. I do like the post tools in Corona. The LUT opacity is a must, so hopefully, V-Ray adopts that. This isn't meant to be a Corona vs. V-Ray, but I would be interested in what I am doing wrong for my V-Ray NEXT times being 7+ hours and still not very clean.
    Bobby Parker
    www.bobby-parker.com
    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
    phone: 2188206812

    My current hardware setup:
    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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    • #3
      Something really strange is going on with my walls. Corona was rendering things beautifully, but like usual, I stopped it to tweak something. After I restarted the render I saw this strange banding on my wall again. I tweaked something that has nothing to do with the walls and after checking the wall material, some transparent banding got introduced somehow. The material is from Siger Shaders and I never had a problem with their interior paint material before.
      Bobby Parker
      www.bobby-parker.com
      e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
      phone: 2188206812

      My current hardware setup:
      • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
      • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
      • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
      • ​Windows 11 Pro

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      • #4
        Sounds strange, I happened to be doing an interior renders project during 3.6 and then with NEXT. Experienced nothing like you are, render times were an improvement.
        Jez

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        • #5
          I downloaded the model and had a look. Probably rather pointless seeing that I dont have Next yet or that non of the textures were included which would have made things a bit easier to trouble shoot.

          Anyway I ended up resetting the render settings to default then tweaking a few settings, nothing crazy.
          Redid most of the lighting by swatting out the IES for Vray lights, deleting the Vray sun (by the way the daylight system was still using a skylight), replaces it with two plane lights in the window.
          Did a simple white material over ride for everything except the ceiling lights
          This took 58 minutes on a single machine

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          • #6
            glorybound Very quick test
            Scene on Vray Next. You didn't add any assets for lights so i just used Nice IES 30 and changed the camera settings to a more reasonable interior setting.
            F5.6 / Shutter 1/100 and ISO 200
            4k in 10m on a 72 core machine. Noise threshold .01. You could just add the denoiser ontop with custom 0.65 to clean any noticeable noise up even further

            Although you had DOF turned on i turned it off - tested again with it on and still 10 mins

            Can send the scene via your email you want it

            Attached Files

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            • #7
              Typical, blaming vray for the PEBCAK
              A.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vizioen View Post
                Typical, blaming vray for the PEBCAK
                Must admit, I had to look that one up......

                Personally, whenever I have a hardware/software problem, I typically always first think it's me that's the issue.... and I'm usually right

                Jez

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                3DS Max 2023.3.4 | V-Ray 6.10.08 | Phoenix FD 4.40.00 | PD Player 64 1.0.7.32 | Forest Pack Pro 8.2.2 | RailClone 6.1.3
                Windows 11 Pro 22H2 | NVidia Drivers 535.98 (Game Drivers)

                Asus X299 Sage (Bios 4001), i9-7980xe, 128Gb, 1TB m.2 OS, 2 x NVidia RTX 3090 FE
                ---- Updated 06/09/23 -------

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by leehumphries View Post
                  glorybound
                  Can send the scene via your email you want it

                  Yes, I would love to see the scene. whitebirchstudios@gmail.com I tried every combination, so I could be having PC issues. Things haven't been running right since Microsofts Spring update.
                  Bobby Parker
                  www.bobby-parker.com
                  e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                  phone: 2188206812

                  My current hardware setup:
                  • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                  • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Vizioen View Post
                    Typical, blaming vray for the PEBCAK
                    If you read my original post, I say that it might very well be me. Even my Photoshop is running slow.
                    Bobby Parker
                    www.bobby-parker.com
                    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                    phone: 2188206812

                    My current hardware setup:
                    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Well i can send it over. But FYI when i rendered with your camera F1.4 at 4k Override on it was slow as. Thats why i changed the camera settings

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Vizioen View Post
                        Typical, blaming vray for the PEBCAK
                        We used to call that an id10t error.

                        Bobby Parker
                        www.bobby-parker.com
                        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                        phone: 2188206812

                        My current hardware setup:
                        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by leehumphries View Post
                          Well i can send it over. But FYI when i rendered with your camera F1.4 at 4k Override on it was slow as. Thats why i changed the camera settings
                          I did try turning off DOF, but I don't remember that helping. I am downloading your file now, thank you.
                          Bobby Parker
                          www.bobby-parker.com
                          e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                          phone: 2188206812

                          My current hardware setup:
                          • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                          • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                          • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                          • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                          • #14
                            Here is the Corona version, which rendered in a couple hours.

                            Bobby Parker
                            www.bobby-parker.com
                            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                            phone: 2188206812

                            My current hardware setup:
                            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by leehumphries View Post
                              Well i can send it over. But FYI when i rendered with your camera F1.4 at 4k Override on it was slow as. Thats why i changed the camera settings
                              I spend all week trying to get reasonable render time, trying everything. I downloaded the scene you sent, turned on the materials and it is rendering fine. I am stumped! It couldn't be just the DOF and IES, since I tried turning both off and it didn't help. I wonder if opening up on a new machine with a reset V-Ray fixed something eternal (I tried resetting V-Ray). At some point, I did turn on auto exposure and color balance and my scene rendered almost black. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to help. I owe you one!
                              Bobby Parker
                              www.bobby-parker.com
                              e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                              phone: 2188206812

                              My current hardware setup:
                              • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                              • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                              • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                              • ​Windows 11 Pro

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