New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

[shinkakashi]

I'm having some issues regarding the new version of V-Ray for Sketchup (1.48.66), in which I try to render a scene that was made with Sketchup 7.1 and VfSU 1.05.30, and when I press the render button, it shows the message "V-Ray is currently processing your scene, please wait".. then, despiste the increase in parsing time (which was supposed to be smaller, not bigger) compared to the previous version, after some 5 ou 6 minutes, the message "V-Ray is currently processing your scene, please wait" disappears just like if I didn't pressed the render button at all, with no frame buffer windows nor anything. Can someone explain to me what I'm doing wrong?

[dkendig]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

Sounds like some sort of problem with the scene. Sometimes imported images or components don't let us know that they were imported, so we don't get to process any materials/textures that come along with that import. In our old version we just shrugged our shoulders and said oh well. In this version, we added some debugging tools. If you go to Plugins->V-Ray for SketchUp->Help->Debugging... You should see an option called "Force Sync for all materials" This will iterate through all of the materials in the SketchUp scene, and all of the materials that V-Ray knows about. If there are any materials that aren't showing on both sides of the equation, it will create materials where they're missing.

[shinkakashi]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

Now, the frame buffer appears, but soon after that, it crashes with the "TEMP folder" msg =(

[fpedrogo]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

Should be better for us if we have the scene. Can you send us the scene? support@asgvis.com or to my email fpedrogo@asgvis.com

best

[MartinPh]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

I have a very similar problem. I installed the new Vray 1.48.66 today, and tried to render a large, detailed (40mb) model. I rendered that same model yesterday with the previous version of Vray without any trouble. Now, however, soon after the frame buffer window appears, SU and Vray simply shut down, without any message or warning. I di get a SU bugsplat window afterwards.

I did notice that both on SU startup as well as on opening the model a number of pop-up message fly by, but so fast that the text hasn't even time to appear.

I find that smaller, simple models do render, so it seems as if the new Vray is handling memory less well than the old one.

This is very disappointing.

[dkendig]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

nah, shouldn't be the memory if it worked in our old product. It's most likely an issue with mismatched materials. In our old product, if a SketchUp material lost sync with a V-Ray material, it was gone forever and the scene would act strangely sometimes. Other times it would behave just fine, and just have a hidden problem waiting to happen. Try clicking on Plugin->V-Ray for SketchUp->Help->Debugging->Force sync for all materials. If it finds any missing materials, it should be able to see them suddenly appear in our material editor.

[MartinPh]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

Thanks for the quick reply, I really appreciate it!

But no, that didn't do the trick, unfortunately. Program shutdown just like before. I already tried rendering with material override, that didn't work either.

For completeness sake: I'm on a P4 dual core 2,133 Ghz with 4 GB RAM and a Nvidia GeForce videocard. I'm running SU 7.1

(PS. Tried regenerate textures too, but again without effect)

[Carvite]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

I have exactly the same problem. I'm using the demo version. I downloaded a couple of models directly from the google warehouse. The program exits, and the bug report window appears.
With smaller models (ie, a couple of boxes) it works fine. However, with larger models it won't render, or crash or it appears to take forever. I've had the three scenarios, after 4 clean installs. (Uninstall, scan for leftover files, even uninstall/reinstall sketchup). to no avail.

Dissapointing.... :-[

[Iwasacloud]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

1. I have the exact same problem with larger files. It says Vray is processing the scene, but nothing ever happens in the frame buffer.

2. My second bug, when trying to preview a matierial (a vray material) in the editor, Sketchup crashes, every time without fail.

3. And lastly - this may have something to do with my inexperience - some of the vray materials I've downloaded come in at an extremely small scale. And I cannot figure out how to change it.

Help! Anyone?

Also, I'm using a MacBook Pro, intel based, only a year old. In fact, my hardware was sufficient enough to use Vray on my Windows partition.

[thomthom]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

1. There won't be any activity in the VFB when V-Ray is processing the scene. That is work it does before it starts the actual rendering.

3. You change the scale of textures using the Sketchup Material editor. And you always have the option to size using SU's texture position tool

[Iwasacloud]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

1. There won't be any activity in the VFB when V-Ray is processing the scene. That is work it does before it starts the actual rendering.

3. You change the scale of textures using the Sketchup Material editor. And you always have the option to size using SU's texture position tool

Thanks Thomthom.

Ok, sorry, my terminology was off. I realize 'processing the scene' is what happens before the rendering, but it never goes into rendering. Basically, I'm having the same exact problem as Shinkakashi in their original post.

And as far as the texture scaling goes, that's what I've always done for the windows version of Vray for sketchup, but that option doesn't appear when I right click the material. Is there another place to do that? How would I change the scale of the texture in the Material Editor? I couldn't find it anywhere. My apologies if this is basic knowledge...

[dkendig]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

Wait a minute guys... we're getting sidetracked. Let's stay on task. If you have a simliar issue fine, but don't hijack the thread too much.

SHINKAKASHI - Try running Plugins->V-Ray for SketchUp->Help->Debugging->Clear Texture Cache Folder, what happens then? The folder we write textures to, should be cleared every time you open a fresh instance of SketchUp, but just in case...

MARTINPH - It sounds like you have a different problem to me, please make a separate thread about this issue, so we don't end up getting everyone's stories mixed up. Shinkakashi's issue is related to the error message that reads "Not enough space in your TEMP folder". Your issue has no error messages, just a bugsplat.

CARVITE - It's hard to tell if you have the same issue or not. If you do not get the "Not enough space in your TEMP folder" error message, then please make a separate thread as I told MARTINPH.

IWASACLOUD - In SHINKAKASHI's first post, he was unable to get the frame buffer to show up. All that happened is the preprocessing message, and then nothing, no VFB or anything. You said that nothing happens in the VFB with your issue, so I'm assuming that the VFB pops up, but then you never actually see a render happen. That sounds different from SHINKAKASHI and MARTINPH's issue, because SU doesn't crash at all. Please open a different thread about this issue. Also, did you run the debugging tools mentioned previously in this thread?

Sorry to break it up, but this thread has potential for going crazy.

[Iwasacloud]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

Wait a minute guys... we're getting sidetracked. Let's stay on task. If you have a simliar issue fine, but don't hijack the thread too much.

IWASACLOUD - In SHINKAKASHI's first post, he was unable to get the frame buffer to show up. All that happened is the preprocessing message, and then nothing, no VFB or anything. You said that nothing happens in the VFB with your issue, so I'm assuming that the VFB pops up, but then you never actually see a render happen. That sounds different from SHINKAKASHI and MARTINPH's issue, because SU doesn't crash at all. Please open a different thread about this issue. Also, did you run the debugging tools mentioned previously in this thread?

Sorry to break it up, but this thread has potential for going crazy.

I apologize for 'hijacking' the thread. But no, my problem was exactly how SHINKAKASHI explained it. I shouldn't have tried to reiterate the scenario. VFB doesn't pop up. I did try the debugs, nothing works. I have a multitude of other things that cause Sketchup to crash such as loading a vray material, but I should start a new thread for that? I appreciate the replies, I'm pretty disappointed with the new Vray. I thought I was competent with it, but I'm not with this new version..

EDIT: Using all three bug tools seems to have alleviated the problem. At least I got it to work once. Still having the other major crash problems. Should I start a new thread? Or report them as directed in the bug section?

[TqM]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

I had exactly the same problem as originally described with scenes made during a previous version.

After some testing I found that the "Regenerate all V-Ray Materials" under debugging seemed to do the trick, but not before giving me a bug splat on the attempt to render first time round after doing it.
However, on the second attempt to use the "regenerate...", even though it began to render the debugging stayed true to it's warning and pretty much wrecked the materials on the scene...

yup...


I don't know how relevant this is, but I'm running on win7

[shinkakashi]

Re: New V-Ray (1.48.66) won't render

I tried the "clean cache" function as well, but stills the program shuts down after some 30 seconds showing a black frame buffer. Strange that the exactly scene renders correctly in the 1.05.30 version. So, if isn't a texture allocation problem, what is it then?

By the way, I managed to render deleting all my vegetation. So, it could be either a vegetation texture problem regarding the new version of V-Ray, or something about the quantity of geometry being displayed (strange that the scene rendered just fine with the previous version and all vegetation).

I've also give a hit at the preview button at all the materials at the Material Editor (in the previous version, you could check if there were any material's texture missing clicking on the material preview button and seeing if SketchUp suddenly closed out of nowhere). But, it all went fine, all the materials did the preview just fine.

So, what more could be wrong in my scene so far? It is pointless if I can't render with the vegetation included on the scene.