I have about three weeks to finish up about 60 renders (interior and exterior). Is anyone using Vantage for production renders? I get pretty good results quickly, but to me, they are pre-viz quality. However, I have seen some image, that the person swears was done in Vantage, and they looked dang good. Any setting suggestions?
I’ve been using it for production since it came out. Haven’t gone back yet.
This should have been in the Vantage sections - my bad!
Do you have any tips? I was thinking about running it through AI sharpening to get rid of the softness. Are you seeing soft images come out of Vantage?
Are you showing something? I’m usually running into the opposite problem. Too sharp for my taste.
I would install the latest update. It has lens glare now and some other neat features. You can also us the built-in blur and sharpen sliders to help with your issue. I pretty much set up my settings as if I was using the production renderer. .003 for noise threshold, adjust reflection/fraction and GI bounces as needed. Set my render samples between 1000 to 1500k and only denoise the last pass.
I find the settings straight out of the box work well for me in Vantage. Occasionally I have to adjust things like the opacity settings.
The post production part, like Filmic Tone Mapping, Lens Effects are brilliant too.
I echo what Luma3d says though, the images are often too sharp and clean. In post I’ll soften things up a bit, add some noise and some usual adjustments.
Animations are still a bit glitchy / flickering, but I use CPU rendering for that, but as you’re dealing with stills, I’d say give it a go. Rendering in minutes at 5k, rather than hours, is a big win!
Maybe just disable the Bloom effect in the Vantage post processing settings (not my decision to have it on by default, so don’t ask me about it) ?
Greetings,
Vladimir Nedev
Without bloom you’ll get pixelated edges on your bright white areas. Light lenses. They are not antialiased.
I rendered a 4K, 2K, 2K upscaled, and Vantage, and sent it to the client.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mKQMySXr3t2706fBkLw7\_JhnbY1zsfBO?usp=sharing
Pardon the scene; it isn’t done, but it is the current image I am working on with them, so I used it as a test.
- 4K - 1 hour
- 2K - 20 minutes
- Vantage - 5 minutes
Whatcha think?
Looks good. Is the Vantage image 4k or 2k.
The vantage is 4K
The 2K upscaled was upscaled using Topaz.
Gaming Vantage? The only gaming dcc I know of is UE. For the render time stick with Vantage.
It is how I explained it to my client. I told her to think about it as a gaming engine - not nesscerly 100% accurate, some cheating going on, but most will not notice.
That’s the point. Vantage is a real time raytracer. Not like UE, ENSCAPE, Lumen, or Twinmotion. Which do some cheating. Chaos Vantage leverages ray tracing for a high level of photorealism, but it also incorporates features like denoisers and adaptive sampling to optimize speed and quality. Which throws it into the biased category. Similar to when using Vray cpu version. You can either use brute force for both primary and secondary engines or light cache to speed things up.
I got approval to go with Vanytge!
This project has been strange. I sold it in November of 2024, which was brilliant because the end of the year and the first of the year are some of the slowest for me, and this one job would have been perfect! The designs kept changing, and I didn’t get finals until March, one of the busiest times of the year, and I was already booked solid.
The information they sent was incomplete. It included low-resolution material examples and a ton of thumbnails of light and plumbing fixtures without dimensions, names, or manufacturers. Try Google image search a fixture to find a dozen rebrands and hours of searching for the actual manufacturer and the specs.
The landscape plans included dozens of species, and all of the houses used different plants/trees. After building everything, they said the landscape plans were made up, and the plants were not correct; they would never use those plants.
I sold the job per room, and after they gave me their camera views, they wanted such expansive views to show extra room (cheating to get rooms for free) that it looked terrible. They commented on why the walls were at an angle.
After an hour of a Zoom meeting today, they conceded and told me to do what I had to do to make the images work. They seem to understand the obstacles they put in the way. The sales team gave me the brief, and the marketing team told me to do my thing.
Lol… so, regarding low images. I get that all the time from designer at my firm. Small swatches of terrazzo, a repeatable fabric but it’s 72dpi. So I’ve been using topaz gigapixel 8. It has sped up my workflow. I upsample the bitmaps to 2-4k, then bring it into PS and offset to create my seamless texture.
yeah. not to uncommon. I also use Topaz to upscale, but these people will have tile color without any tile pattern. I used the patten on the CAD elevation and they said that the pattern was generic. I am just venting, I know, but it gets frustrating when you get angry emails on why we are in May and the images are not done when I said that they would be done the first of the year. Like, really! I got your draings after the scheduled deadline, when I was busy, and you gave me missing info like I am a mind reader.
Lol… totally feel your pain. It’s the same being a in-house vis person. Like there’s no professional respect. Almost like we’re an after thought.