Hey Guys just wanted to let you all know that I am selling my collection of Gnomon DVD"S over at Amazon. I have viewed most of them a couple of times so they are all in great condition.
I am selling them at a good rate, for example Global Illumination: Interiors (V-Ray Lighting Techniques with Christopher Nichols) is $78 with shipping on the Gnomon website. I am selling it for $48 with shipping.
Also if anybody wants to make an offer on the full bundle, pm me.
There is a list of the DVD’s over at Amazon (Seller name=Rendertime):
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Theyre not getting any money from you selling the dvds, so to them it’s the same as piracy for all the good it does. Its not software, but it’s got a very similar license.
The first sale doctrine allows purchasers of copyrighted material to sell that which they have purchased without violating the copyright laws. The theory here is similar to that of the exhaustion doctrine in patent law. The copyright owner must derive all revenue from the so-called first sale, and cannot control the future disposition of the article originally sold.
The key to understanding the first sale doctrine is to know that the copyright owner only has right to prevent others from copying and distributing (for free or for profit) copies of a work covered by a valid copyright.
btw, those are the terms for the web site content… precedent is pretty clear that you are allowed to sell used cd, tapes, dvd’s etc. Unless they have some sort of eula that states otherwise on the dvd itself it should be allright.
Re-render, did you read them? It even says that it’s not in the bit that I quoted.
the Site, Materials or Services,
It’s for anything they do.
I dont even care what the hell you do with the dvd’s, it’s just you’re actually not allowed to sell them and that terms and conditions does cover the dvds.
Thanks for smearing my post with the p word. I have spent thousands on training DVD’s, if I want to sell them to get new ones that is my choice, maybe you should actually worry about people who pirate material like this instead of questioning my legitimate sale. Gnomon make the best training DVD’s out there and I will continue to use them as a source of knowledge.
display, perform, license, sublicense or reverse engineer the Site, Materials or Services, any portions of the Site, Materials or Services or the selection and arrangement of the SiteThe other section on software may cover it? but calling video software is a stretch, IMO
…The 2 words after the part you bolded says it includes the materials and services they offer?? Did you just turn your brain off for 5 words after you read each time it said site? That covers everything they produce.
Your obviously itching for an argument, I on the other hand have to work so I can buy some more of those fantastic training DVD’s, maybe you should do the same. I will leave you to argue with yourself.
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I’m not the one claiming to know exactly which law it is. Gnomon are - I just said that they claim it’s covered under one.
If you still dont believe it, ask them for proof, see what they say.
I dont even care that you’re selling them, it’s just your attitude that I feel the need to call out. Because you’re wrong and oh so adamant that you’re right. Knowing that you’re not supposed to and still selling them is fine though, I wouldnt be bothered by that and i’d have left you to it.
Downloaded video mp3’s etc, are not covered under the same laws as video, music etc on cd’s dvd’s tapes etc, It is legal in most cases to sell the used hardcopies.
Gnomon make great training DVD’s but I wouldn’t call this a law. Now maybe you should do a Google search on “The First Sale Doctrine of Copyright Law”. Your reverse psychology is wasted on me.
