Ugh, that’s depressing. It certainly lends credence to my sneaking suspicion that Microsoft is mostly colluding with computer manufacturers in releasing a massively inefficient OS just so the majority of users who only word process and watch YouTube will still need new hardware to do so.
I really would love to be excited about Vista. But it’s just scary.
Shaun
funny how they advertise vista on the same page as they’re showing incredibly bad benchmarks. 
I already was intending on NOT getting vista for many reasons. This is just another.
Mmm doesnt look so good.
Although I would suggest everyone take anything from that site with a large grain of salt.
Not the most reliable source of information in the world.
Thats a really good point. Really most people don’t need new computers. Gamers do and we do. Most people need computers that will not break and I would think there is a point where the hardware will be mature. Not for us we will need new machines until we have real time renderings but most people hell even most gamers will have a limit that will be reached years before we have reached ours. And if you find an OS that you like you could just keep that.
Very very true.
One thing that came to mind reading through was that they never quite mentioned the bad side of “superfetch”, which is memory consumption without the user knowing any better.
Just a glorified “office fast start”, or “acrobat launcher”: half (or in the case of vista, all?) the code in memory, even if for the day i don’t want to run max.
NO chance in hell for me. Vista’s definitely a no-go.
Lele
And for those of you who dont know. Effective idle memory usage is over 800mb with aero on.
With IE open and autoupdate open.. I was kissing the scary side of 1GB memory usage. :shock:
I’m not planning on buying Vista any time soon and I didn’t read the article so I don’t know if they mentioned that those benchmarks are all openGL which Vista only emulates. I imagine that when the Directx 10 patch comes out for Max that the DirectX performance will be pretty good. Both ATI and NVidia are said to be writing their own OpenGL flavors for Vista, then the performance should be normal.
Well, if you consider that SPECviewperf measures viewport performance under OpenGL specifically, which is not supported under Vista and so probably software emulation is used instead, these numbers are quite normal.
On the rendering benchmark, Vista actually performed slightly faster than XP.
I myself have also found that as far as rendering is concerned, the speed difference between XP and Vista is negligible.
This is for rendering, of course. As far as I can see almost all other benchmarks show poorer results under Vista.
Best regards,
Vlado
Wait until the next version of 3dsmax, the only supported OS will probably be Vista, and then we will all be running Vista… 
yea but 2 days later this article was pushed: AnandTech Forums: Technology, Hardware, Software, and Deals on the same site
well I would be inclined to trust Anandtec far more than Tom’s…
So those who are against, are you saying you are never going to switch to Vista or are you saying that at the moment you are not going to, until better drivers and support appears for that particular OS?
oh will switch. but it took quite awhile for me to switch from win2k to winxp. might be as long for the switch from winxp to vista.
I just want to switch as soon as this is out…
:lol:
That will be my switching time as well I think
Nah. Vista just baaad. Never gonna.
We’re using WinServer, so we will continue. Longhorn (da server version) is comin’. Note, that server version of vista is still in beta stage. Microsoft thinks, that it’s not ready… at all. This makes me think, that vista still a “buggie shite”. Maybe until SP1 or SPx
lol SPx in roman numbers?
I tried the beta of vista under a virtual machine built on my old athlon XP with 1gb of ram.
I don’t know if it was the final configuration (in beta only for bugs, not for features), but after switching the hell off (services, gadgets, and anything else one may think of), i managed to have it run without applications within 128 megs of ram.
Of course it then looked, and felt, just like NT4 sp3.
If that’s what would allow me to play crysis, bioshock, and a few other good games, i might consider it.
I still remain NOT happy about having to shell dosh to get DX10, and a wee bit of it too.
And i know i ain’t alone at this.
Also, i am personally insulted by MS every time it tries and sneak in stuff that runs behind my back without me being any wiser, and that just adds to the mess Vista looks to me right now.
Add to this that MS is having troubles (and bleeding big ones at that) in europe for its software policies (facing something like a couple of million euros a day of fines, retroactive from the last sentence, until it complies. a LOT of money even for them), and that apple-ipod are under fire too for their closed standards, and see where the DRM in Vista are going to head…
This should sum it all up nicely in my case 
Lele
Though you gotta be careful with what you read on the internet
What we need is max ported to at least linux, Autodesk seem to very strong in their resolve not to port it 
That would be equivalent to re-writing it from scratch
On the other hand, Maya runs nicely on Linux, and V-Ray does too.
Best regards,
Vlado