Standing out in interior archviz - how to compete?

[glorybound]

It is very project and client specific. I get people freaking out when something is above a couple hundred buck and then I get things like last night. Guy fills out my web form and asks for a couple dozen views, so I sent him a higher quote because I'm swapped with work. Minutes later he signs the contract and pays the deposit.

[prateekvishwa]

i commented by mistake so deleted.. pls ignore

[JezUK]

., I don't do a lot of visualization but when I do I charge $1800 minimum for the 1st view and $1000 per additional view of the same area.

some years ago i had a very good client I was making 250K per year only for renderings ....The 1st year I made 50K then 90K, 140K, 200K and 250K with them but I knew that one day 250K is going to end because I was too expensive, for that money they could hire 5 guys working full time.

You just broke my bull-shit detector.......

[MANUEL_MOUSIOL]

., I don't do a lot of visualization but when I do I charge $1800 minimum for the 1st view and $1000 per additional view of the same area.

some years ago i had a very good client I was making 250K per year only for renderings ....The 1st year I made 50K then 90K, 140K, 200K and 250K with them but I knew that one day 250K is going to end because I was too expensive, for that money they could hire 5 guys working full time.

Can I see your work somewhere?

[flino2004]

I can’t show anything for that client because of the contract I had.... it was for Walmart stores, the typical presentation was one main view, 2/3 closeups and 4 color elevations... sometimes extra views of how you won’t see the Walmart from the houses around...the presentations were to approve the design to the Walmart commite then to the city and meeting with the neighborhood.

I was doing average one store per week..., I had an special price for them because I didn’t want to be too expensive of 3,500 per board ..., if the changes were significant I charged them and probably 50% of the stores had extras like totem signages, landscape views and I did one animation.

I was expecting being around 100K at the beginning but they sent me more stuff and I was thinking ... ok, this is the last project... I had nightmares thinking of that.

because of that numbers they created their own in house 3D team.

Zero BS my friend.

[flino2004]

I found this one on-line... I didn’t do it but it was similar... they took my boards as the standard presentation for all the firms designing Walmart stores...

[eligiusz]

I have just found this :/... https://t-z-g.com/prices

[glorybound]

I have just found this :/... https://t-z-g.com/prices

At first, I thought it was a little confusing and the prices were low, however, once I saw their portfolio I think they are priced good.

[Morne]

At first, I thought it was a little confusing and the prices were low, however, once I saw their portfolio I think they are priced good.

Look again, those prices are NOT per view. Some of those prices, are for up to 8 views

[glorybound]

Yeah, that's crazy. However, the images are not the best. Isn't Poland known for these low prices like India and the Philippines?

[urbanite]

No, it is not

[MANUEL_MOUSIOL]

It's still potentially cheaper than Western Europe though...

[glorybound]

If all I am doing is pulling another camera and rendering the same thing from a different angle, without modeling anything else and I don't do any composition or post-production, what are a few more views? You get what you pay for, that will always be true. From their portfolio, it lacks attention to detail. Some images are okay and others are less than okay. Who knows, the final deliverable can be 1K and those take minutes to render.

[glorybound]

It's still potentially cheaper than Western Europe though...

The global economy has always been difficult to navigate. Unfortunately, sometimes the craft/product is what gets comprimised. Honestly, I have been hearing this same argument for a decade and I am still supporting a family of four and nobody goes without, so I am so past the fear talk. Someone will always do it cheaper and if you want, you can compete on that, but I chose not to. Who makes more, the guy doing 100 cheap renderings or the guy doing 10 expensive renderings?

[flino2004]

If we refer to global prices, $500 per view is still cheap... I design houses, but I do some consultation in design to architectural firms, and I have seen what they are paying for renderings; They are willing to pay around 1,200 per view because they charge to the client 2X.( 2400 per view.). If the firm just bills what the rendering cost I have seen 2K per view.