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  • #16
    dont forget the frame rate too when calculating.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by fixeighted View Post
      The calculator doesn't care about the frame size.
      The calculator might not care about the frame size but you sure should. The frame size is vital - otherwise the calculation is rather meaningless.

      You need to know what resolution you need, you test run your machine at that resolution (across a variety of scene moments) and then put the highest / the average of those into the calculator.

      Otherwise, yes, you will get a surprise outcome....
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      • #18
        Originally posted by glorybound View Post
        I think that they are a lot of work when doing them conventionally. Vantage I don't think is the answer yet, but maybe one of the other suggested softwares.
        No, I meant what are your thoughts regarding pricing, what prices are you thinking you would charge?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by JezUK View Post

          The calculator might not care about the frame size but you sure should. The frame size is vital - otherwise the calculation is rather meaningless.

          You need to know what resolution you need, you test run your machine at that resolution (across a variety of scene moments) and then put the highest / the average of those into the calculator.

          Otherwise, yes, you will get a surprise outcome....
          But this is exactly what I said is the way to calculate the costs in the response I gave
          There simply is no other way and I have experience over years of doing just this
          Anyway, it was merely a suggestion based on the initial question.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by JezUK View Post

            No, I meant what are your thoughts regarding pricing, what prices are you thinking you would charge?
            I don't know, which is why I posed the question. With animations, it seems like no money is enough sometimes, so the more the better. If all goes well it can be okay, but you can easily get under water.
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            • #21
              Oh I've been there, I know all too well how quickly South these can go which is why I rarely do them, unless the budget is there.

              Might be worth asking your client if they have a budget or price in mind?

              Or give them a range of what it could cost and then gauge from their reaction.

              Might save some time.

              The last three animation I did I didn't make any money from.

              Each one different and a one off. At least yours are more specific and I'd say more predictable.
              Last edited by JezUK; 27-01-2021, 09:17 AM.
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              • #22
                For a residential spec, tell them you can do it for 15k which will include X still images. Produce the X still images first and have them sign off on those in writing before producing the animation so you are:

                A.) not consuming more computational resources than needed to render out the animation
                B.) should they make changes once the animation is produced from the still images they signed off on, you have ample jurisdiction to charge for any change order(s) incurred

                Best of luck out there! Stay safe!

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                • #23
                  is anyone taking into account that if quality of this sample is satisfactory for the client then after modelling all that producing imo better looking output takes a day or two of work and 400-500$ worth of software (D5)?
                  using vray for this seems like quite an overkill.
                  edit: also any rtx card but that should be easy I guess.
                  Last edited by piotrus3333; 27-01-2021, 11:37 AM.
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                  • #24
                    D5 does certainly look impressive. Will have to give it a go on my impending monster project. Thanks for the pointer
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fixeighted View Post
                      D5 does certainly look impressive. Will have to give it a go on my impending monster project. Thanks for the pointer
                      I wouldn’t trust it for anything more than house like that. D5 although very promising still feels more like a toy than a tool.
                      consider lumion or twinmotion for something “monster”.
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                      • #26
                        Good to know. I just installed it anyway, so will see what it can do.
                        It's based on Unreal, which coincidentally is what the project currently is using
                        for testing, so it may be useful. If I can avoid having to put the animation through Vray I will
                        If it works, then I can come back to this post to offer findings which might help with determining
                        costs that don't make clients run away
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                        • #27
                          i wish the clients ive quoted animations for, would at least let me know they were running away...instead of silence
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                          • #28
                            D5, never heard of it, but I’ll check it out.
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                            • #29
                              It's Lumion... probably 5 seconds per frame. I like lumion a lot because with few hours you have something acceptable to sell your project.
                              show me the money!!

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                              • #30
                                Everything seems to be going towards Lumion. I was hoping Vantage would be a Lumion killer, but maybe not, at least not yet. I have downloaded it a few times, but who has time to learn new software.... but I might not have a choice.
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