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  • jstrob
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    Originally posted by Lupaz View Post
    I also read it loads faster.
    This is pretty awesome too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgQEgM1CUF8
    And this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXnvXKUSj0
    It also has improved boolean operations.
    The new bevel profile is pretty neat.

    But not being able to select by material? hmm a tough one.
    The selection mode with preview is pretty cool. The sub object shortcut that we have to create is not so impressive. Anyway, Max is still great for some surgical modeling operations and for that I will keep my max 2016 or 2017 all my life!

    But talking about startup times, I did a small comparison here (just for fun): 3ds Max 2016 vs 3ds Max 2017 vs Houdini 15.5.565 vs Blender 2.78.

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  • glorybound
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    Everything, for the most part, is working great for me. So far, 2017 is by far the most stable release. Plus the icons scale for 4K monitors.

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  • Lupaz
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    Originally posted by Bruce Hart View Post
    SP3 is currently being tested on the Beta site and they have fixed this issue thankfully. It shouldn't be long before it's available to the public
    Anything about fixing the problems when opening previous versions scenes (2014)?
    It was mentioned here and I saw it too. It's like some geometry gets an xform applied automatically when opened in 2017: some objects appear rotated.

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  • Bruce Hart
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    sorry - won't happen again

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  • jstrob
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    Originally posted by Bruce Hart View Post
    SP3 is currently being tested on the Beta site and they have fixed this issue thankfully. It shouldn't be long before it's available to the public
    But we are not supposed to talk about anything we know from the Beta Bruce. Another great concept straigh from the corporate way of thinking! Because they are listed on the stock market they have to work in secret!

    When beta testing Blender you can speak to anyone about anything without worry.

    What do you prefer?
    Last edited by jstrob; 24-09-2016, 06:13 AM.

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  • Bruce Hart
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    Originally posted by Lupaz View Post

    But not being able to select by material? hmm a tough one.
    SP3 is currently being tested on the Beta site and they have fixed this issue thankfully. It shouldn't be long before it's available to the public

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  • Lupaz
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    Thanks gandhics. Nice analysis

    At least I have not have a show stopper compare to 2016
    this is comforting

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  • gandhics
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    Originally posted by Lupaz View Post
    Some comments here seem to be pretty strong against 2017 though:
    And
    You can not just look at the title.
    You need to see all the details.

    It could be a bug. But there might be work around.
    It could be a bug which it may be there even before 2017.
    It could be a OS/video driver issue.
    It could be a bad installation.
    It could be an anti virus.
    It could be an user error.
    It could be an workflow change.
    It could be an intentional change because other user requested it.(When max dev change the deselect behavior of CTRL, I was really upset. But, apparently ot was requested by others users. Heck there is even request to change the default fps to 25fps.)

    I think I mentioned this in other thread.
    But, this is my approach.

    Yes, might get 10 new bugs. But, if upgrade solve 20 more bugs.
    Then I think it is worth to upgrade.

    For example, 2017 has very important Track VIew bug fix for us.
    That fix alone is worth to upgrade for us.

    Also as you mentioned, you will get a few features, too.
    You need to evaluate if that features are worth it.

    For example. the new UV editor may looks same.
    But, it is pretty much re-written.
    It is now base on DX can handle 100 thousand verts.
    The brand new ABF based peel is really good.
    Packing also has a brand new algorithm to give meaningful result.
    You can also use same sub object selection method you can use in Editable Poly for UV.
    and more...

    If you don't need all that, well.. then you don't need to upgrade.
    But, if you think it would help your work. Why not?

    I has been using/beta testing 2017 more than year.
    At least I have not have a show stopper compare to 2016.

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  • Lupaz
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    Some comments here seem to be pretty strong against 2017 though:

    -you can do a google search on the Area for max 2017 problems.. A bit frightening!
    And

    My install of 2017 is completely ornamental for now. I keep using 2016, which has all I need and hardly ever crashes.

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  • gandhics
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    Originally posted by Lupaz View Post
    But not being able to select by material? hmm a tough one.
    It only happen if you use SE based Select Object dialog.
    If you use legacy one, I think it is OK.

    Also.. there are a lot of scrpt to use, too
    http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/sc...ct-by-material

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  • Lupaz
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    I also read it loads faster.
    This is pretty awesome too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgQEgM1CUF8
    And this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXnvXKUSj0
    It also has improved boolean operations.
    The new bevel profile is pretty neat.

    But not being able to select by material? hmm a tough one.

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  • gandhics
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    But, 2017 also have many fixes, too.
    I think you need to carefully evaluate what you would gain and what you would lose.

    For example, it has very important Obj export fix for ZBrush user.
    Or.. it is really faster for tons of static objects.

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  • Lupaz
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    So it seems that, even after SP2, most of you are sticking with 2016 and under.

    I can't look at 2014 anymore, and also tons of plugins and scripts that are included with 2016 and above (quad chamfer for example).
    I'm doing a roll back one step to 2016

    Thanks!

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  • padre.ayuso
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    Originally posted by glorybound View Post
    It the big picture, in my case, it is all tax deductible. The way our economy works, is by spending money, so the government encourages it. The more I spend, the less taxes I pay.
    Go Bobby! Do you want to add 7 seats to your Purchases? If it helps you, I'll do the sacrifice.

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  • glorybound
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    It the big picture, in my case, it is all tax deductible. The way our economy works, is by spending money, so the government encourages it. The more I spend, the less taxes I pay.

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