VRay SP3a: Max 2010 rendering (a lot!) slower than 2009?!

[stevesideas]

That sounds promising then..maybe if they resolve the mental ray issues they will be solving the Vray render time issues at the same time.

[RE:FORM_STUDIOS]

Seems you are not the only one... http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/f...wthread/26109/

[Morne]

*&#$#*#^ Autodesk

[stevesideas]

This is a BIG thing. Ive confidence that they will rectify this pretty soon.

[gagui]

The scene i've tested is the one in the first post.

[gagui]

Is there any news?

[vlado]

Not from me... as far as I know, Autodesk are looking into it.

Best regards,
Vlado

[Morne]

If you running design 2010 Ken has a "fix" on his blog over at the Area.
http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/b...x_design_2010/

If you running plain max 2010 you should have this fix already. If not, well then Autodesk buy Houdini or go back to the drawing board.

Other related links:
http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/f...wthread/26109/
and also
http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/f...wthread/26476/

Please can you guys also confirm which 2010 you using and getting slowdowns. 2010 plain or 2010 design?

[Paul Oblomov]

I'm curious how this is supposed to be related to mr performance....

[gagui]

I've tried Ken fix and nothing seems to happend. Render times still are way long in 2010 than 2009.

Same scene in
2009 - 20'' 11'
2010 - 24'' 25'

I'm using 3ds Max 2010 Design

[Morne]

OK here are my tests with Max 2010 (just max not max design)

I have a file 316mb. (obviosuly very polygon heavy!)

2009
Open very slowly in 2009 and saves even worse.
Render 26 minutes 55 seconds

2010
Opens faster than 2009 but still saves forever as per 2009.
I already had the settings at 1 and not 0 as Ken suggested.
Before the hotfix Render 28 minutes 50 seconds
After the hotfix Render no change at 28 minutes 50 seconds
Disabling bitmap pager via maxscript I get Render bit better 28 minutes 32 seconds

So in my test 2009 still renders faster than 2010!

[vlado]

The optimization described by Ken is related to the way mental ray connection in 3ds Max translates the scene for mental ray. It has no effect on V-Ray.

The general slowdown of the rendering seems to be caused by changes in the way 3ds Max 2010 handles textures. I've submitted a case to the ADN, so hopefully they will figure out what needs to be fixed.

On a side note: Ken's post made me realize how to avoid the Hair&Fur crash with V-Ray in 3ds Max Design - simply choose the "Max" default from Customize > Custom UI and Defaults Switcher and restart 3ds Max.

Best regards,
Vlado

[JeffG2]

Any word on this problem? It's killing me.

[vlado]

Nope, I haven't heard anything back, I will ask what happened.

Best regards,
Vlado

[Holk]

Nothing new about this?
This start to be ridiculos, I still using 2009 instead of the 2010 because it's useless due to the slow rendering speed when you are using bitmaps in your scene!

Serious, where are the problem, 3ds Max or V-RAY?