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[craiggorton]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

Interesting Craig,

I don't know whether adjusting the material during a render is a good or a bad thing.

Does it automatically update the material in the render?

I think my machine would be a bit sluggish if I tried to do anything while it's rendering

Nothing you change after you the render button will affect the render. I usually start seeing things that need to be changed and I start changing them while the render is still going. If you click "low-priority" in the general options tab you can work while the render is going- the render will always wait for available CPU. Nice.

[Travis Serio_cg]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

I am not sure if this is related or not, but i am starting to think that it is. Are any of you getting rhino crashes now when opening files, or getting files that have unreadable geometry in them now? I've been noticing crash issues for the last few builds and I don't know if its VFR or the RDK but something is up. My brother Matt and one other guy i know are confirming that they are having issues lately too. This "seems" although not positive that this started happening about the time the RDK appeared with the vfr installtions but i have no way for certain to determine if this is fact or not. Anyone have similar experiences or is it just the 3 of us?

[PhiD]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

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firstly after I cancel a rendering (in "render window" mode) there is a "press enter when done" command in the command line which is very annoying as I immediately want to edit a material and the material editor will not open because rhino is still waiting for me to finish the "render window" command.
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If you change the button command to this:

_renderwindow _pause _enter

you don't enter anymore.

_renderwindow is a standard rhino command and works since a very long time, only a button was missing.

Cheers, Thanks Mica, I should have thought of that. That will solve it for now.


Paul

[dalomar_cg]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

@ Travis

Maybe you could post some of the other plugins that you have with Rhino as well as some of your hardware as well. It could be possible that some of the other plug ins that you might have (maybe a jewelry specific one) might be interacting with Vray or RDK. I was having alot of crashes a week or two ago and it wound up being due to a graphics driver issue (Quadro card, so update if you have one). Also have you posted this on the newsgroup? If its a rhino/rdk specific issue, than maybe they can shed some light on the issue

[Travis Serio_cg]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

I considered that it might a matrix/rhino issue as well. However even if i boot Rhino by itself I seem to get the same problems. It seems like somewhere between Beta 2 and RC1 i started getting the problems, nothing else on the system has changed. Not only that but it isnt just me. my brother Matt Bennett, and also Kent West from Gemvision are reporting the same weird happenings. Now I am not one of those guys that will immediately tie vray to a cross and set it on fire. There are numerous possibilities that could result in the problem, but i needed to post here to see if it was indeed linked to matrix/rhino/vfr or simply rhino/vfr or even rhino/rdk or even further matrix/rdk or even still further. monkey behind pc/vfr/rdk/matrix/rhino :P

So ill take it then that its just the 3 of us? If so I will point the finger at Matrix as the 3 of us have that plugin in common.

[Travis Serio_cg]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

Oh i should also mention that it isnt rhino or vfr that is actually "crashing" the problem is the 3dm's are becoming unreadable. I have had 3 or 4 files now that can no longer load back in. Rhino prompts the message that some of the geometry is unreadable or corrupt. all of the files that had this problem had each been rendered. Although, this problem does not happen on all files I was trying to determine what triggers it.

[dalomar_cg]

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I wasn't accusing you of blaming vray I was just thinking that the more plugins that you have the more possibility of stepping on each other's toes. I would try and audit the file and see if you have bad geometry on the file before you save. If its actually crashing while saving or while loading the file that can definitely cause corruptions. Also you might try sending those files that can't be opened to McNeel. They can look into the file and see which pieces were corrupted and possibly get to the bottom of the issue.

I assume there are other files that you've rendered and not had the issue, but maybe there was a specific material type that was used in those files that wasn't in all the others. If its an issue of geometry becoming unreadable, the material definitions are written/connected with geometry, so that was my thinking with that. Who knows really, only the magic computer fairy knows what actually caused the problem ;D

[Travis Serio_cg]

Re: **** PLEASE POST ALL VFR4 RC PROBLEMS HERE *****

agreed, the magic fairy is out to get me this week. We'll i havent completely blamed vfr yet but i did want to post here and see we are alone in this or "yes" other people are experiencing this problem as well. Being that no one has come forward it helps me narrow down the possibilities. :P

[joe_b]

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I just came across a problem, don't know if it's a rhino thing or vray.

Rhino just crashed! But all was not lost, there was a Rhino Crash Dump file on the desktop, I opened it and everything appeared to be there, the layers had materials applied to them.

Could you send me the file that caused the crash as well as the crash dump please? Email is fine - if they are very large you can upload them to ftp://ftp.asgvis.com/incoming and just email me to let me know the file name. Thanks

[joe_b]

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This bug may have been posted before - if so excuse my ignorance - but whenever I try to export a material and import it afterwards, V-Ray says that the material is corrupt. I have tried exporting to different folders etc. - I have newer been able to import the exported material afterwards. I am using the latest available version of VFR4 RC.

I'll check that out- thanks

[edit]
Yep - found it. Stupid bug on my part. Thanks again.

[joe_b]

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just started to play around with distributed rendering. I started DRSpawner on six machines, tried to render with IM+LC. All is well until prepass starts. Also tried with
QMC+LC. The render is black except for a few buckets. Any ideas?

Does the scene render black normally? If you could send me the scene I can see whats going on. Private message me if you have any questions/comments about sending me the file

[edit]
If you are using HDRI to light the scene the textures must be in an accessible location for the slaves.

[joe_b]

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It is already at 2,it happens on every drawing so it is not specific to one drawing.If I use the standard camera,and a directional light (no vray sky or sun)I am back to my original speed,the one I had with beta 2.

Vlado did say he made some changes to the physical camera / sun / sky. I do not know exactly what those changes were. But possibly the render time increase is related to the scene being over-bright? That can generally cause sampling to take longer.

one other thing,now to get a reflection in the glass,if I use the sky no problem,if I use a bitmap,where before I would use a multiplier of 70 or around I am now up to 7000 ....

If you have exposure turned on for the physical camera then you need scenes to be brighter than they would need to be with the standard camera.

I manage to get up to speed again,by uninstalling RC1 and patch 1,rebooting the computer,installing patch 2 only,rebooting and now the speed seems to be the same.

Interesting

[joe_b]

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One other issue I have come across, is that if I adjust a material in the material library, it doesn't apply the new material to the objects that have that material applied, I have to re-apply the material to these objects (when I am assigning materials by layer anyway)

I'm sorry - I don't totally follow you on this. Are you saying if you edit a material you then need to re-apply it afterward?

[joe_b]

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edit oops directly in the environment background it does not works,in the reflective environment it works.

Ok - I'll see if I can track that down

[joe_b]

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... same for LC, the save-after-rendering option dosn't work.

It seems to be saving for me...could you send me a scene that doesn't save it?