PSD Manager for MaxDesign 2012 available, funktioning ?

Hallo

does anyone know if PSD Manager allready works for MaxDesign 2012 ? Such a helpful plugin…

by the way, it would be nice to be implemented and improved from chaos-group …

PSD manager looks good from youtube reel but i heard it saves psd in 72 dpi only.. i doubt 72 dpi is good enough for print.. :slight_smile:

Well we never had any problems. If you want an image with 8000 to 4000 Pixel it does the job in 8 bit and also in 16 bit.

the rest is photoshop… so no problem here.

I allways suspect this plugin in terms of devellopement. the website seems to be from 1960. But then when you think its dead, sometimes you find a little new entrance about a recompile for newer versions. And PSD Manager worked fine with MaxDesign 2011.
So any ideas if it works also with 2012 ?

Maybe alternatives for the PSD Manager ?

Well i love the psd manager… i can extract all renderelements as i wish, but more important, i can extract Masks from objects with same materials , masks from single ore grouped objects, or from object id´s…

only thing you have to pay atention… psd manager doesnt like multiunderobject materials… the masks doesnt get antialiased very well then…

so maybe anyone who knows a good alternative for the psd manager ? if it will not be transformed for max 2012 Design ?

Are you kidding ?? :slight_smile:
The dpi is linked to the printed size / dimensions. Since when you render images you define an output resolution in pixels, dpi has nothing to do with that … If I was you, I’d try it instead of staying with things you’ve heard about it :wink: (no offense)

We’ve used PSDManager from the first version, it’s a very useful plugin - but it would certainly need some “dusting off” :wink:

WHen we render in 3ds max ( say 1024x768 pixel size) & on saving output in tiff it gives us option to select dpi before we save. default is 300 dpi. Now when i render same with psd manager it saves layerd psd in 72 dpi. which means if i print psd file created with psd manager will not print in high quality as it is just 72 dpi. SO I generally save my render in tiff:300 dpi & drag drop psd manager layers in my tiff to work on hi res 300 dpi file. I hope i made it clear what i m trying to say..

If I had a nickel for every time someone thought 72dpi was low… lol…

Prateek - the determining factor in “quality” is how many pixels are in a file. A 10,000x10,000 pixel file at 1 dpi has higher “quality” than a 1000x1000 pixel file at 100 dpi. Why? Because DPI only determines how large something is (it’s a physical measurement) but it’s the number of pixels in a file that determine it’s quality.

It’s irrelevent whether you render from Max at 72dpi or 300dpi so long as you’re rendering to the same number of total pixels (in this case you mentioned 1024x768 ).

Exactly …

It seems like a LOT of people seem to have a hard time grasping this concept / difference. I too still get asked to deliver images at <add random number>DPI :roll: and not just by clients either!

may be i am wrong or may be i am not able to explain it … One more try :)--

Say if i have to deliver a render to client in A4:300 dpi, for which my 3dsmax resolution will be 3507x2480 : 300 dpi : Image aspect 1.414 OKAY, after render is done i save my output as tiff to which when i open in photoshop shows me image size as 3507X2480px : 300 dpi Now, if somehow i forgot to save my output separately as tiff & i decided to use psd saved by psdmanager, when i open that psd in photoshop it shows me image size 3507x2480 : 72dpi ( which means my output is saved in A4 but 72 dpi, may not print as clear as A4 300 dpi).. Hope this makes clear what i am trying to say.. may be i am wrong some where.. will be glad if i will get to learn something new today :slight_smile:

You can change the dpi in photoshop at any time. It means nothing when working on a computer, it’s the same image pixel for pixel weather it’s 72 or 500.

what when we print? faking it like this in photoshop may not help while printing..

In case another explanation on DPI versus render resolution is helpful - here’s one that I found by Bobo on CGS.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=1855778&postcount=11

It’s not faking it. dpi is arbitrary, it doesnt have any impact on the quality of an image.
I dont know if you’re doing this on purpose now.

Maybe in India the dpi is different from the rest of the world :slight_smile:

Dpi is to tell to The printer The size of The picture on paper.
If your picture is 3000 pixel Wide AND 72 dpi, in photoshop you change 72 dpi to 300 dpi AND you see The pixel seize grow a lot. You just need to change now The pixel size to 3000 AND you CAN see that The quality on screen is just Like before .

Screen don’t need dpi Like printer because The size depend of The screen resolution.
The printer need to translate you picture in cm to print on paper, that’s why you setup dpi ( dot per inch ).

I’m not sure to beeing easy to understand because my bad english knowledge :wink:

Well, I think you’re mixing things here … you can’t say an image is for example 3507x2480 @ 300 dpi ! an image of that resolution can give plenty of print size @ various dpi (which is a PRINTING resolution). On top of that, you can check how Photoshop presents that in Image Size window: you have image resolution (Pixel Dimensions) and image printing size / printing resolution - dpi (Document Size) in 2 separated areas … And last but not least, you can uncheck Resample Image to play ONLY with printing size and printing resolution, while keeping image resolution (PIXELS) the same ! ok, so what do that mean ? only that you have the exact same number of pixels in the image, but they’re “spread” at a different concentration.

I hope that will be clear and help you avoiding confusion :slight_smile:

Regards.

voilà! i think i am getting it now…i was such a dumb :frowning: tnx u all! … lot lot lot to learn…

The way I look at it…as I am from a print backround is that an image of 1000pixels x1000pixels @300 dpi is exactly the same as an image of 1000 pixels x1000 pixels pixels at 72 dpi. Its when you start talking about measurement units such as cm’s or mm’s that things change. An image of 1000mm x 1000mm @72dpi is a much lower quality image than an image of dimensions 1000mm x 1000mm @ 300dpi. DPI is based on measurement not pixel dimensions. Probably already been explained but can’t hurt to re-iterate.

Welll…

great to have people, who explaint the differences of dpi versus pixels…

but this still doesnt answer my original question, if psd manager is available for max 2012 soon, or if any alternatives exist..

Tom