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  • #31
    I get that each engine believes their implantation is best.

    My question still stands, how did you get it to work in Revit? and if that conversion is good enough in Revit why wouldn't it be good enough for Max?

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    • #32
      I don't think it's "good enough" in Revit either.
      Which is why it has V-Ray materials there as well.
      Lele
      Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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      • #33
        Originally posted by ^Lele^ View Post
        It's a dictionary conversion: they write "color" we read it as "diffuse" and so on.
        It just happens implicitly.
        I'm talking of not being able to match BRDF implementations exactly (some cap glossiness, some have a different gloss multiplier, others entirely different models, we support the whole of the GTR shading domain, most only GGX and on and on and on the list goes...), SSS models, and even volumetric features.
        And by match, i mean per pixel, exact.
        Some result is always somewhat available (i can plug a texture into the right slot n.p.), it's just what the result will look like which bothers us.
        The exact same is valid for *any* conversion, thereby including Corona and the Physical Material Zap created for max.
        Models can't be easily adapted, if at all, in between engines and we could be here until the cold death of the universe debating which implementation is the right one for some features (we do it right. no WE do it right!). ^^
        personally, I be happy with a basic, close enough conversion.

        Frankly the materials in Revit are very poorly setup to start with, in many cases bear no resemblance to the real world finish they are trying to simulate, so a 1:1 conversion would be missing the mark anyway.

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        • #34
          Still an issue. I have three Revit models and the V-Ray converter does nothing to convert them.
          Bobby Parker
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          • #35
            It's the autodesk converter to physical material first, and then the v-ray converter.
            We don't convert those directly, to my knowledge.
            Lele
            Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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            emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

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            • #36
              I tried every Autodesk Converter preset and nothing works. There seems no way to go from Revit to V-Ray.
              Bobby Parker
              www.bobby-parker.com
              e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
              phone: 2188206812

              My current hardware setup:
              • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
              • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
              • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
              • ​Windows 11 Pro

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              • #37
                would you share one piece of geo for each material which doesn't convert, please?
                Also, i assume it's max 2021? Which update?
                Lele
                Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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                emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

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                • #38
                  https://maxtools.3dzver.ru/vmc - this worked. Here is the file before it was converted using the script

                  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHO...ew?usp=sharing
                  Bobby Parker
                  www.bobby-parker.com
                  e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                  phone: 2188206812

                  My current hardware setup:
                  • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                  • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                  • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                  • #39
                    thanks, glad you sorted it.
                    file has no access.
                    Lele
                    Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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                    emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

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                    • #40
                      It shows that it can be done.
                      Bobby Parker
                      www.bobby-parker.com
                      e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                      phone: 2188206812

                      My current hardware setup:
                      • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                      • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                      • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                      • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                      • #41
                        There is no doubt it can, particularly if one isn't too hung up on what comes out of said conversion.
                        I'm still waiting for file access, though.
                        Lele
                        Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
                        ----------------------
                        emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

                        Disclaimer:
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                        • #42
                          Try this one

                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHO...ew?usp=sharing
                          Bobby Parker
                          www.bobby-parker.com
                          e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                          phone: 2188206812

                          My current hardware setup:
                          • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                          • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                          • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                          • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                          • #43
                            "Error Loading Autodesk Material Library 2012
                            Invalid Asset Instance!"
                            For all shaders. None has an UI, and they are all subbed for a standard gray shader.
                            Is this the same for you?
                            I ran max 2021.1, with all the ancillary stuff installed.
                            Lele
                            Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
                            ----------------------
                            emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

                            Disclaimer:
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                            • #44
                              I don't get any errors. Are you looking anywhere to see that?
                              Bobby Parker
                              www.bobby-parker.com
                              e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                              phone: 2188206812

                              My current hardware setup:
                              • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                              • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                              • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                              • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                              • #45
                                No errors on load, no.
                                However, if i load any of the multi-sub material present in the scene in the material editor, any of the sub-materials, regardless of class (i.e. type) are without an UI, and only a box with that message in it.
                                See attached.
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                                Lele
                                Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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                                emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

                                Disclaimer:
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